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To: daniel1212
Yeah, all that stuff you posted. That's why I will never be a protestant.

Religion is a mystery not a philosophy.

Additionally you know nothing about the Orthodox faith which never ever presumes that anyone is going to heaven, within the church or outside of it.

You should probably examine your level of arrogance however. That's what i would do in your shoes. I believe Scripture supports humility and a lack of judging others, things which are found in abundance in the many many Orthodox churches I have been to, around the country and world.

89 posted on 01/25/2018 5:13:45 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema; redleghunter; Elsie
Yeah, all that stuff you posted. That's why I will never be a protestant. Religion is a mystery not a philosophy.

I understand how much the EOs magnify mystery but Scripture is not so mysterious that it excludes doctrine, which teaches that as damned sinners who are destitute of any means of saving ourselves from Hell or attaining Heaven we must humble ourselves as such and cast all our faith/confidence in the risen Lord Jesus to save us on His account, by His sinless shed blood. And so follow Him.

Additionally you know nothing about the Orthodox faith which never ever presumes that anyone is going to heaven, within the church or outside of it.

That it know nothing about the Biblical Orthodox faith in which even the most very devout Jews were told that they must be saved by repentant faith in the Lord Jesus or else they would be made His footstool=damned.

And which warns,

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. (2 Thessalonians 1:8-10)

You should probably examine your level of arrogance however. That's what i would do in your shoes. I believe Scripture supports humility and a lack of judging others, things which are found in abundance in the many many Orthodox churches I have been to, around the country and world.

You should probably examine your level of arrogance however. That's what i would do in your shoes.

How it is arrogant to hold to doctrine which presumes and states there are essential Truths, and that souls this need to be saved, and ineffectual faith (or faith in a false gospel) will not save one, and provide stats which answer your intolerant demand,

Let the non-Orthodox find other countries to evangelize. Why do they insist on evangelizing other Christians?

I believe Scripture supports humility and a lack of judging others, things which are found in abundance in the many many Orthodox churches I have been to, around the country and world.

Which means you are guilty of what you charge others with, since you yourself engage in judging others as wrong by both condemning evangelicals and judging others for judging. This also is not mysterious, but a reality that must be faced, as with the need for a conversionary personal day of salvation.

90 posted on 01/25/2018 12:06:15 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: MarMema; Mark17
Additionally you know nothing about the Orthodox faith which never ever presumes that anyone is going to heaven, within the church or outside of it.

Mark??

Wanna chime in?

91 posted on 01/25/2018 7:13:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MarMema

“Additionally you know nothing about the Orthodox faith which never ever presumes that anyone is going to heaven, within the church or outside of it.”

If they don’t believe an Apostle, writing under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, then they don’t believe Truth.

“And this is what God has testified: He has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have God’s Son does not have life.”

“I have written this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know you have eternal life.”

I John 5:11-13


95 posted on 01/25/2018 8:11:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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