[Elsie]

Additionally you know nothing about the Orthodox faith which never ever presumes that anyone is going to heaven, within the church or outside of it.

Mark??

Wanna chime in?

[Mark17]

Additionally you know nothing about the Orthodox faith which never ever presumes that anyone is going to heaven, within the church or outside of it.

I guess maybe that is why I will NEVER be a part of the “Orthodox faith.” They may teach that, but at the risk of being judgmental, and committing the sin of presumption (which I love to commit)😀 I will say I disagree with with that line of thinking. I KNOW absolutely, positively, totally, completely, 💯%, now and for all eternity, that I have assurance of salvation. I am assured of Heaven.
At this point, putting it rather bluntly, I don’t really care if anyone likes it or not. What they think, has no impact on my life.
I hate to be so judgmental. On second thought, being judgmental about this, is a beautiful thing. Everyone should try it. 😀😆😄