Thanks mairdie.
Posted on 01/17/2018 3:30:31 PM PST by mairdie
The mystery of the final resting place of the wife of Ancient Egypt's most famous ruler has moved a step closer to being solved.
Egyptologists previously discovered what they believe is the burial chamber of Ankhesenamun, Tutankhamun's wife, in the Valley of The Kings.
If confirmed, it could help to unravel the final fate of the boy king's wife, who suddenly disappeared from historical records after her second marriage.
The teen bride is believed to have had a tragic life, marrying her father, her grandfather and her half-brother Tutankhamun.
Archaeologists have now begun to excavate an area near a tomb at the World Heritage Site, which they believe contains her body.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
That sounds like a GREAT family! Cuddles to all. My niece’s son is now a Marine and loving it. OldTax-lady sounds very wise.
I do the audio stuff, and throw them on my phone/ipod..(yes, I still have one of those...)
I suspect I miss some content by not getting the video versions, but, like you...dont sit still long enough to watch.
I really have enjoyed some of the courses by Professor Fears...Wisdom of History, History of Freedom, etc. he passed a few years ago.
good stuff...glad that other FReepers have discovered Great Courses, also.
I have several sets by Professor Fears, too. Loved him, and I was sorry to learn he had died. “Achilles traded a long life for a glorious memory ... and here’s a fat old professor in Olkahoma, three thousand years later, telling you about the great deeds of Achilles. He got what he wanted!”
Professor Elizabeth Vandiver on classical literature and mythology is another of my favorites.
I also enjoyed “Cycles of American Political Thought”, and the foundations of western civ. history of the United States is also a good set.
I just looked....own 57 of them...dang....forgot I had that many.... :)
I had that one, too. Loaned it to a fellow FReeper and didn’t get it back, iirc, but that’s okay. Means he has to find space for it!
I have a whole college education worth, except for foreign language, science lab (obviously), and super-duper maths.
alas, you have to sign up to download it, but I believe it’s free... the bad news: It’s on loan and you have to wait to read it.
Yes, that’s what I found. I signed up and will wait. It would be interesting to read something from more than 40 years ago. I’ve found some books on Alibris.com at prices I could affort, but so many books just can’t be found.
Wow. So who pays for the wedding?
No, King Rootin Tootin!
The pharaohs had to have been born from the same womb, figuratively at least -- so, there were arranged, consanguinous marriages, and dynasties coming to sudden ends for some odd reason. :^)
Hatshepsut, for example, was married to her own father, then her brother (or maybe half-brother), and finally her nephew, in succession. During her regency she wound up ruling in her own right for some period of years, while taking up with her companion Senenmut (there's actually an ancient contemporary graffito showing the two of them naked and doin' it, I think she's even shown wearing the crown), and bearing her daughter Neferure. Hatshepsut died, apparently, of a tooth abcess, and her successor was her nephew (obviously in some form or other they had a common female ancestor back along the line, or he had a female ancestor in common with her father and his own grandfather).
I believe the nephew was then married to Neferure, but she didn't survive long. Neferure's tomb was found by Howard Carter, but has AFAIK never been "cleared" or examined by Egyptologists (the interior was visited, so it can be seen in some form in one of those quickie crappy Zahi-approved documentaries). Despite its isolation and obscurity, the tomb was apparently looted and wrecked, as most were, in antiquity.
Akhenaten, whose name was wiped from every inscription after he died, was afterward referred to as "the criminal of Akhetaten" (his shortlived new capital) and appears to have been unable to keep it in his linen robes -- there's scene that survives that shows him making out with his own underage daughter while Nefertiti watches, and a second child looks at the mother and points at the action. It's also likely that he fathered at least one child by his own mother.
The 18th dynasty ended in a big mess, with Tut making nice with the Amun priesthood, but portrayed at least once trying to walk with a crutch. After Tut died young, his successor Ay (his uncle) is shown performing the rites of burial in person, very unusual -- and Tut was buried in a big fat hurry. It can't be proved to be connected, but Ay's sarcophagus was found smashed to pieces -- probably just a tomb robbery, but clearly there was a succession crisis, actually three or four in a row, right at the end of the 18th.
These are the same supposed chambers Nick Reeves claims hold the burial of Nefertiti.
My best guess now is, if you go into the tomb and pull the right scroll out, just a bit, the whole corner spins around like in an old horror or spy movie, and you wind up on the other side.
Those chambers are odd, if they’re really there. I’d be surprised at this point if anything is done to explore them further. My real best guess is, since Tut was buried in a hurry, an existing, abandoned tomb was used, and the bad rock strata uncovered during the original excavation were covered up with a slab of local stone and some plaster.
Oh, apologies, the graphic is about the Reeves claims only — the article is about the supposed tomb non-discovery (since it was pointed to by ground-penetrating radar) by Zahi “Zowie” Hawass, who apparently wants more than anything to discover an unplundered pharaonic tomb (and who said that only excvation counts in terms of discovery).
Hatshepsut was the only child of Thuthmos I and his queen. She was never married to her father. She married Thuthmos II. He was her half-brother, Thuthmos I’s son by a harem girl. She and Thuthmos II had a one child, a daughter, Neferure. Thothmos II had a son by a harem girl, he would become Thuthmos III. Hatshepsut’s step-son (not nephew) was 5 years old when his father died. Hatshepsut ruled as Queen Regent of Eqypt for nine years since the boy was to young. In the last year as Queen Regent, she declared herself co-Pharaoh with Tuthmose III. As such, she continued to rule Eqypt for another 21 years. When she died, Thuthmos III assumed sole rule in Eqypt. He would rule as Pharaoh for another 34 years. He never married Neferure.
As Queen Regent and co Pharaoh, Hatshepsut’s statues and pictures show her wearing both crowns of Upper and Lower Egypt. What she is not shown wearing is a beard. Nor, in her royal titles, does she use the male forms of verbiage in her royal titles.
This information is from Joyce Tyldesley’s book “Hatchepsut”
Thanks mairdie.
You have the most wonderful way of bringing ancient stories to life! I learned NOTHING about Egyptian graffiti and your summary was brilliant. There’s a reason people enjoy writing Egyptian mysteries. The old civilizations were rife with scheming and intrigue. What fun!
Goat.
Hmmm? Wasn't that explicitly required if he had no offspring?
Deuteronomy 25:5-6
Assuming you meant deceased spouse's wife...
Right behind Laz...
Argue with Rev John Henry Livingston, not me.
He didn’t want a woman to marry her deceased husband’s brother, either.
The idea was that nuclear family lived so closely intertwined that it was incestuous for them suddenly to marry, and for existing children to see their aunt or uncle move into the place of a parent.
All the letters I read from 1800s refer to brothers-in-law and sisters-in-law as brothers and sisters. It makes it confusing until you get the family lines straightened out. But it was very common for an older sister to take in younger siblings to raise once they had a home of their own. So the siblings became much like elder children in the households.
Nahh, it bothers my sensibilities as well.
Besides, as an agnostic, I’m rather under-equipped to argue with someone who has dedicated his life to studying a particular faith.
Would make for an interesting conversation, though...
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