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Rancher Cliven Bundy renews range fight, pledging to 'do whatever it takes'
OregonLive ^ | 1/10/2018 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 01/11/2018 3:59:09 AM PST by Nextrush

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To: Hostage
Here's the one reason I find to be on the Bundy's side. From the recent mistrial:
The judge further identified 493 pages of internal affairs documents on BLM agent Love that said there were no documented injuries to endangered desert tortoises by cattle grazing on the federal land. That's the reason the federal land agency sought to curtail the senior Bundy's grazing permit in 1993 and limit the number of cattle on public land.

21 posted on 01/11/2018 6:42:54 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Hostage

I concur 100%.


22 posted on 01/11/2018 6:53:49 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: Hostage

Thanks for the informative and sensible post.


23 posted on 01/11/2018 7:01:58 AM PST by Balata
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To: Nextrush

“The ranching patriarch urged Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of Clark County, Nevada not take direction from the federal government, describing it as a “foreign” power.”

Mr. Bundy can be both right about his bad treatment by the feds and wrong about other things. I am happy he is free but he is a wing nut about some things, too. The feds aren’t a foreign power...though in this case they sure acted like it.


24 posted on 01/11/2018 7:58:37 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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To: DoodleDawg; Nextrush; wita

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Rancher Cliven Bundy renews range fight, pledging to ‘do whatever it takes’
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Doing “whatever it takes” is what got him in trouble the last time. I suggest he listen to his lawyers on what’s legal and what isn’t and not go on his own interpretations.
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Legal vs. not? Might want to ask the GOVT jack-boots first.

Lastly, I guess no one should cry too hard when *they* finally crack down on any one of the ‘3 felonies/day’ you may get prosecuted, no?

They’re all ‘lawful’ and ‘legal’, right? So’s the numerous Gun Control laws, property theft (welfare and asset forfeiture), etc.

“The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising never would have happened if those Jews had just FOLLOWED the law and go on the railcars...”


25 posted on 01/11/2018 8:30:50 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: ridesthemiles

There was such a large group of Patriots arrested that they split them into separate groups for trials. The feds arrested all of the Bundy men except their youngest son Arden who was not 18 at the time of the protest. Mel and Dave Bundy along with 2 others are still scheduled for a separate trial on February 26th.


26 posted on 01/11/2018 9:46:37 AM PST by azkathy (We the people are FED UP-pun intended!)
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To: Delta 21; Nextrush; All

Did you see this, USA Today actually published an article that was fair to the Bundy Family. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/01/05/bundy-fbi-misconduct-another-example-why-feds-need-leashed-james-bovard-column/1001603001/

Excerpt “The feds charged the Bundys with conspiracy in large part because the ranchers summoned militia to defend them after they claimed that FBI snipers had surrounded their ranch. Justice Department lawyers scoffed at this claim in prior trials involving the standoff but newly-released documents confirm that snipers were in place prior to the Bundy’s call for help.

The feds also belatedly turned over multiple threat assessments which revealed that the Bundys were not violent or dangerous, including an FBI analysis that concluded that BLM was “trying to provoke a conflict” with the Bundys. As an analysis in the left-leaning Intercept observed, federal missteps in this case “fueled longstanding perceptions among the right-wing groups and militias that the federal government is an underhanded institution that will stop at nothing to crush the little guy and cover up its own misdeeds.”


27 posted on 01/11/2018 9:50:53 AM PST by azkathy (We the people are FED UP-pun intended!)
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To: i_robot73

I would compare what’s coming down in the West to what came down in the South in the sense that the population is being kept in poverty and being prevented from making a living by government regulation-control like Jim Crow racism.


28 posted on 01/11/2018 9:51:27 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: ridesthemiles

Negative on that, the trial of Cliven Bundy, Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy and Ryan Payne dismissed with prejudice.

The hiding of evidence forced Judge Navarro’s hand for those four but now that all the evidence is out it allows Mel Bundy, Dave Bundy, Joe O’Shaugnessy and Jason Woods to be tried because no evidence is hidden for them.

That’s where it stands now.


29 posted on 01/11/2018 9:54:44 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Nextrush

Bttt.

5.56mm


30 posted on 01/11/2018 10:05:48 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: azkathy

There is so much additional ammo Trump could use against the Deep State if he embraced the Bundy case. Waco and Randy Weaver as well. Slamming the FBI with their recent screwups.

I mean these guys break every rule in the book with impunity. From your average rancher in Nevada with less than 200 head of cattle to the Republican nominee for President of The United States. These jack-wagons need to be taken down a notch or two.


31 posted on 01/11/2018 11:10:03 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: azkathy

Excellent story! This James Bovard has the startings of a twitter storm going with this. @JimBovard


32 posted on 01/11/2018 11:13:21 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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