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Watch: US Air Force's potential A-10 replacements take to the skies from a dirt runway
ibtimes.co ^ | 1/7/18 | Shubham Sharma

Posted on 01/07/2018 9:31:23 PM PST by Kartographer

In order to test potential A-10 Warthog replacements in rugged conditions, the US Air Force has flown Sierra Nevada A-29 Super Tucano and Hawker Beechcraft AT-6 Wolverine light attack planes from a dirt runway.

The planes took off and landed on the uneven dirt airstrip located in the Melrose Air Force Range training area, a part of Cannon Air Force Base, in New Mexico. The whole event, the takeoff as well as the dusty landing, was captured and shared on YouTube by AiirSource on Wednesday, 3 January.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: a10; air; airforce; force
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To: rdcbn

My bad

The AT6 is not yet fully operational

The A29 is


61 posted on 01/08/2018 7:57:13 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: paddles

You might wish to be a bit more clear when you say that the AT-6 does not have a US airworthiness certificate because the FAA cannot approve an armed aircraft, and the US military has not purchased any, so the AT-6 is not certificated by the US government. Chicken and egg.


62 posted on 01/08/2018 8:07:17 AM PST by MortMan (Irony is the opposite of wrinkly.)
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To: MortMan

I’m not following your train of thought. The AT-6 does not have an airworthiness certificate because the process is expensive and a buyer (or “launch customer”) is yet to be found to absorb those costs since the USAF—so far—will not.


63 posted on 01/08/2018 8:23:17 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: paddles

Armed aircraft can only be certified by a military authority. The FAA cannot certify the AT-6 like they did the T-6.

The USAF has not purchased AT-6s in any numbers, so they have not certificated it, either.

The fact that it is uncertificated in the US is a factor in evaluations, but is not driven by the lack of ability to be approved, which is how I read your comments. Please correct me if this impression is incorrect.


64 posted on 01/08/2018 8:27:04 AM PST by MortMan (Irony is the opposite of wrinkly.)
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To: rdcbn

Resurrect the SkyRaider. You need a weapons platform that can loiter.


65 posted on 01/08/2018 8:31:27 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: MortMan

When the bids for the two aircraft were submitted to the USAF in 2010 for the LAS program they were required to present a cost/schedule plan for obtaining a US military airworthiness certification (the A-29 already had a non-US certification). Ultimately the A-29 won because, according to the USAF, there was significant technical risk to the AT-6’s certification plan. Incidentally, this appears to be the same reason the Philippine Gov’t selected the A-29 over the AT-6. The USAF hasn’t procured any AT-6 aircraft. Does this help?


66 posted on 01/08/2018 8:41:12 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: JamesP81
....As for its lack of anti tank weapons, other aircraft have long since already taken over that role from the A10. Right now it’s F-16s and will be F-35s in the future. Neither of those have the 30mm cannon but again...the A10 is a 40ish year old design. The 30mm was effective against Soviet tanks of the era, proven 25 years ago in Desert Storm.....


They may not have built-in guns but I think they have attachable gun options -


67 posted on 01/08/2018 8:41:35 AM PST by az_gila
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To: paddles

Fair enough. I read more into your comment than warranted.


68 posted on 01/08/2018 9:09:50 AM PST by MortMan (Irony is the opposite of wrinkly.)
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To: az_gila

A relatively small caliber gatling gun like the 30mm cannon on the A10 simply is not big enough to deal with the better armor protection of current production tanks.

The USAF’s primary anti tank weapon has been air to ground missiles for about 40 years now and, in fact, was the primary anti tank weapon of the A10. The gun was considered a secondary weapon to use once they ran out of missiles...which was expected to happen often if the we were trying to stop the Soviets from coming through the Fulda gap.


69 posted on 01/08/2018 12:24:09 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: Kartographer

These are COIN aircraft. Stupid article for calling them A-10 replacements.


70 posted on 01/08/2018 12:49:20 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: neverevergiveup
...what would you want most in an A10 replacement?

A brand-spankin' new A-10, thank you!

71 posted on 01/08/2018 1:25:45 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: neverevergiveup

Two engines, for one thing. Can either one of these planes handle a 30mm cannon?


72 posted on 01/08/2018 8:02:39 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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