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Boston suffered historic flooding because 'bomb cyclone' hit (tr)
Daily Mail ^ | Jan 05, 2018 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 01/05/2018 11:33:50 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

Boston suffered its worst flooding in 40 years on Thursday when it was walloped by the 'bomb cyclone' winter storm - and there's an interesting reason why.

Benjamin Sipprell, a meteorologist in Boston for the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, told the Daily Beast that the flooding was a result of the blizzard hitting at high tide, and the high tide being higher than usual due to Wednesday's supermoon.

A supermoon is a full moon that occurs when the moon is closest to Earth in its orbit. This happens about four to six times a year.

The tides are caused by the moon's orbit, and are at their highest during full moons. Supermoons bring them even higher.

'Normal tides in Boston are between 9 and 10 feet,' Sipprell explained. 'When we get tides, we get some that go up to 12 feet or more. We were forecasting 12.1 feet with this one, but with the surge, it got bumped up to 15 feet.

'It's definitely historic.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: boston; tides; winter
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To: raiderboy

A bomb cyclone is the name given to a low pressure zone that drops 24 mb in pressure in 24 hours. Basically it is a winter hurricane. It tracks up the Atlantic coast like a tropical depression, turns in a counter clockwise rotation pulling cold air from the land out over the ocean picking up moisture and then depositing that moisture back on the land in the form of rain or snow.

They used to call them a “noreaster” because of the direction they track. This one had a much larger pressure drop than past storms. The current dip in the jet stream allowed very cold air to be pulled into it creating snow in places like Savannah, Charleston, Raleigh that would have normally received rain in past similar storms.

The other conditions in place were the timing of an abnormally high tide because of the recent full moon. This combined with the 30-70 mph winds coming in from the ocean caused coastal flooding in places that had not seen it in decades.

I live in southern NH about 60 miles inland. We got about 10-12” of light snow that came down sideways with 20 -30 mph gusts. However, because the temperature was in the high teens it did not stick to any trees. Therefore, very few power outages. This was a concern because it is supposed to be -10 tomorrow night.

All schools were closed yesterday. Most had a 2 hour delay and reopened today. My office even closed a couple hours early yesterday. Back to normal today.


21 posted on 01/05/2018 12:57:39 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It was bad. Just looking out my office window I could see 3 cars abandoned in water past their wheelwells. Sat there from noon until I left at the end of the day but they were gone this morning. Bad luck for those people.


22 posted on 01/05/2018 1:06:03 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: woodbutcher1963

I was shopping around on snowblowersdirect.com last month.
a decent 2 stage is over a grand, i remembered how light, reliable and maneuverable my old Toro was and the stellar reviews on the latest toro model sealed the deal.
Base model 721 R 21 inch $499.99 free shipping and no tax.
best thing no more mixing oil with the gas, apparently EPA has made it not worth selling 2 stroke single stages anymore.
I’m happy, much quieter, very powerful and i don’t come in stinking of exhaust anymore.

https://www.snowblowersdirect.com/Toro-38741-Snow-Thrower/p14110.html


23 posted on 01/05/2018 1:06:57 PM PST by mowowie
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To: raiderboy

“Dont expect us to care about New York or Boston now because we DON’T!!”

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I’ll bet the California fires or the Florida and Texas hurricanes didn’t bother any of you either.

Too bad, I always thought better of people in the Midwest———guess I was wrong.

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24 posted on 01/05/2018 1:12:33 PM PST by Mears
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To: mowowie

Those 2 stage Toro’s are very loud and they do make your clothes stink.


25 posted on 01/05/2018 1:17:11 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

I noticed one prob today, my old 1986 Toro had a crank to turn the chute the new one has a lever you got to reach down to turn it.
Yesterdays storm left huge snow drifts on my driveway.
While plowing through the the tall drifts the snow would catch the lever and move the chute.
Toro charges 200 bucks more for a remote chute moving thingy on the handle.....200 bucks for a couple of more pieces of plastic.
no thanks
I can deal with the prob....most storms around here aren’t like the one we had yesterday.


26 posted on 01/05/2018 1:39:35 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Jeff Chandler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIkxYgfSzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6GlajMzVf0 (Schoonerfare)


27 posted on 01/05/2018 1:48:52 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

These storms do matter: Sandy got Hussein re-elected in 2012.

(I mean, along w/ treason and lies re. Benghazi)


28 posted on 01/05/2018 7:11:19 PM PST by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: woodbutcher1963; Oshkalaboomboom
The other conditions in place were the timing of an abnormally high tide because of the recent full moon.

Why is a full moon important?

29 posted on 01/05/2018 8:55:28 PM PST by Does so (McAuliffe's Charlottesville...and...The Walter Duranty Press"...)
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To: Does so
Why is a full moon important?

The Moon and Tides

30 posted on 01/06/2018 2:53:41 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I mean, why wouldn’t a New Moon be just as effective as a Full Moon?


31 posted on 01/06/2018 6:13:14 PM PST by Does so (McAuliffe's Charlottesville...and...The Walter Duranty Press"...)
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To: Does so

I THINK that the moon was actually closer to the earth in its orbit effecting how high the tide is. This is what I read in the internet. So, it has to be true.

In a related story. The Gloucester, MA high school parking lot got flooded with sea water. They had told kids to park their cars there to get them off the streets so they could plow snow. The parking lot is next to the harbor. The unusual high tide flooded the lot.


32 posted on 01/08/2018 6:27:17 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: mowowie

Are there any bolts/nuts you can tighten up to keep the shoot from rotating so easily?


33 posted on 01/08/2018 6:32:42 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963
Back in the 1980s I lived right on a tidal creek in Tuckerton,NJ. When the moon was full and a strong wind was blowing in the right direction we always got a flooding high tide. Nothing crazy. It also worked if the conditions were right for a low tide. The locals called it a "blow out tide." When this happened we would use a long gaff and retrieve all the pleasure boat anchors in the marina.
34 posted on 01/08/2018 6:52:53 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Stay warm out there!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

No, the handle, when the chute is positioned to the left or right sticks out beyond the body of the snowblower.
When going though high snow drifts or the plow mountain at the top of the driveway the snow will catch the handle and push it back moving the chute to the forward position.
A small nuisance considering the remote chute option bolted on the handlebar with the included useless electric start (needs and extension power cord plugged in) raises the price 200 bucks.
200 buck more for essentially the exact same blower.
i compared part #’s and everything else about the blower is identical.
Just a way for Toro to make more money on basically the same device.
I can live with it.
Looking outside my driveway is very long, wide and opens up to a parking lot out back.....and surrounded by 15 inches of snow.
Las year my old 31 year old blower died for good and i had to shovel deep snow like 5 times, like trying to shovel a mall parking lot lol.
Take a scoop, walk 20 feet dump it and repeat about 200 time.
UGH
The new blower is a godsend, saved so much time already. Already paid itself off as far a i am concerned.

I DO miss the crank my 1986 CCR1000 had though...or maybe it was 2000 i forget.


35 posted on 01/08/2018 9:29:28 AM PST by mowowie
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