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I think Nietzsche's point was that God's influence on society had waned.

Dostoevsky was another answer to this. Nietzsche loved reading Dostoevsky, before he went crazy.

1 posted on 12/23/2017 1:50:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Nietzsche: “God is dead.”

God: “Nietzsche is dead.”


2 posted on 12/23/2017 1:51:50 PM PST by Jim W N
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God, the source of ethics, cannot be unethical. It is only our inability to think as God does that creates an apparent paradox.


3 posted on 12/23/2017 2:05:30 PM PST by PTBAA
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I think it has been found that people who have a belief in a higher power have less fear and are better able to adapt to changing circumstances. We live in interesting times, full of interesting changing circumstances. Trying to act on the behalf of God to take vengeance on other people for their lack of devotion to God is when you get in trouble, and it is not a thing that Christians are called on to do. We have enough problems with our own shortcomings to be getting so high and mighty as to be acting as judge/jury/executioner to other people.

To my mind, the thing Nietzsche brings to the table is a willingness to recognize the value of creative people. They are often crapped on by the very society that they work tirelessly to benefit. A man like Vincent Van Gogh went his entire life unrecognized. Now when he is no longer alive, and able to benefit from the work he did, he’s famous. Nietzsche kind of fixes that for all of those going forward. So Nietzsche is a mixed bag. He also believed that people’s thoughts had no impact on their actions. It would follow that they would bear no responsibility for their actions. Very un-Republican.


4 posted on 12/23/2017 2:28:43 PM PST by BlackAdderess (Pray for our brave men and women in law enforcement)
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As an erstwhile philosophy major, I would rather chew fish hooks than revisit any of the above mentioned persons.


5 posted on 12/23/2017 2:34:53 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel.1

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There’s nothing Nietzsche couldn’t teach ya
‘bout the raising of the wrist,
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away,
Half a crate of whiskey every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
And Hobbes was fond of his dram.

And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart,
“I drink, therefore I am.”

Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he’s pissed.


6 posted on 12/23/2017 2:37:03 PM PST by dfwgator
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Johannes de Silentio, Kierkegaard's pseudonymous author of Fear and Trembling, argues that the knight of faith is the paradox, is the individual, absolutely nothing but the individual, without connections or pretensions. The knight of faith is the individual who is able to gracefully embrace life: Kierkegaard put it this way in Either/Or, "When around one everything has become silent, solemn as a clear, starlit night, when the soul comes to be alone in the whole world, then before one there appears, not an extraordinary human being, but the eternal power itself, then the heavens open, and the I chooses itself or, more correctly, receives itself. Then the personality receives the accolade of knighthood that ennobles it for an eternity." The knight of faith is the only happy man, the heir to the finite while the knight of resignation is a stranger and an alien. I have re-read my copy of a Søren Kierkegaard Anthology numerous times - he was (imo) a brilliant author/philosopher and this essay would easily make into my top five SK works. Highly recommended!
7 posted on 12/23/2017 3:15:23 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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I am a thinker. I read constantly as a boy, and I joined several high-IQ societies in adulthood when I got tired of normals telling me I was stupid. When I was in ministry, I was often accused of thinking too much (by existential types).

I thought, as a naive young man, that I would relish philosophers. I did not and do not.

I find them tedious, pompous, simplistic, and errant. Academics - be they philosophers or musicologists, and yes, there is a connection - are always on the prowl for the latest intellectual perversion. The old just will not do.

What I eventually realized is that I found the imaginative writings of a Lewis or a Tolkien far more valuable than any of these touted sophists.

And then, of course, there is someone named Jesus, who spoke as no one before or since. His words - his Word - remain the only reason I persist in the faith after what I witnessed in churchianity.

I do not begrudge any of you your enjoyment of them; I simply refuse to hold any of them in particular awe. (Well, maybe the Greeks, to some extent.)


10 posted on 12/23/2017 3:41:02 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyonse's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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Nietzsche loved reading Dostoevsky, before he went crazy.

I picked up Crime and Punishment again after 35 years. I had to stop reading it before I went crazy!
16 posted on 12/23/2017 4:27:06 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Existensialism, while a refuge for many atheists, is not incompatible with a theistic framework. Many point to the Book of Job as an early, if not foundational expression of existentialism.


18 posted on 12/23/2017 4:42:13 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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“That which does not kill me, makes me laugh...”


19 posted on 12/23/2017 5:45:52 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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While we must choose, we can never be sure that we choose correctly,

I have to disagree.

I have never regretted being married nor I have regretted my tears or laughter over the world's follies.

I am not sure what Søren's problem was but perhaps he should have moved to a sunnier climate.

24 posted on 12/23/2017 11:30:37 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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bkmk


30 posted on 08/22/2018 7:39:22 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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