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Why Pray for Non-Muslims to Reach Heaven? Perak Mufti Asks After K-Pop Star Vigil (VIDEO)
Malaysia Mail Online ^ | Saturday December 23, 2017

Posted on 12/23/2017 1:39:33 PM PST by nickcarraway

Perak mufti Tan Sri Harussani Zakaria claimed today that Muslims are forbidden from joining the candlelight vigil in memory of the Korean pop star who died of suspected suicide this week.

The mufti asked about the necessity for Muslims to pray for a deceased non-Muslim to go to heaven especially when he allegedly committed suicide, after Astro Awani contacted him for his opinion.

“Cannot. You’re forbidden from doing that. If the artist or individual was Muslim, we gift him the al-Fatihah verse. If it’s a non-Muslim, why would we pray heaven for him instead?

“What more he committed suicide, why would we follow the culture of infidels? What for?” he was quoted saying.

In 2015, the national fatwa council had declared that participating in candlelight vigils is “haram”, or forbidden for Muslims.

MMOTV: In memoriam — Kim Jonghyun

The reason given was because such vigils are similar to other religions’ practice, and may threaten a Muslim’s faith.

On Thursday night, around 100 fans of the late Kim Jong-hyun from various ethnic and religious backgrounds gathered near Dataran Merdeka in the capital for a candlelight vigil in memory of him.

Coming from all over the Klang Valley, they held up glow sticks, torches, balloons and flowers as they mourned him. Most who attended were students.

The 27-year-old singer-songwriter was found unconscious at a private hotel in Seoul on Monday and died in the hospital. Police are treating his death as suicide.

In an apparent suicide note, Kim, better known as front man Jonghyun of the Korean-pop sensation SHINee, wrote that he was “broken from the inside”.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: islam; kpop; ontological; religion; salvation; suicide

1 posted on 12/23/2017 1:39:33 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Moderate Muslim


2 posted on 12/23/2017 1:41:48 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: nickcarraway

“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

Matthew 5:44

I know this is hard, sometimes. I’ve been hurt by them often and heavy. I try. But I also recognize that they need to be stopped for everyone’s safety. I know God can get it done if it is in his needs.

rwood


3 posted on 12/23/2017 1:44:50 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: BenLurkin

ACTUAL Moderate Muslims may as well be apostate heretics to Islam according to their own book.


4 posted on 12/23/2017 2:12:49 PM PST by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: Redwood71

This is one of the hard parts for me as a Christian. Pray for their souls, but protect what is right from persecution at the same time. Sometimes when you’re in the midst of battle - be it physical, mental, philosophical, etc it can be really hard to continue to pray for them.

I ask forgiveness on this one - a lot unfortunately. But I keep trying.


5 posted on 12/23/2017 2:14:41 PM PST by reed13k
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To: nickcarraway

Well, when I die, I don’t want any Moose-limbs praying for me... and I don’t want Christians praying for me either.

Revelation 14:12-13 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them.”


6 posted on 12/23/2017 2:37:55 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: nickcarraway

Pray that Christians will witness to them, that Christ is the only way to God and that God loves them...and would never ask them to kill others, or their children, the way the Baal Mohammad does. And pray that they can then get the Hell out of the backwards, insane, deadly lands ruled by Islam, before one of their oh so noble Muslim brethren guts them like a fish...the way Mohamed tells them to. Because you can pray all you like...they arn’t getting into heaven through Mohammad.


7 posted on 12/23/2017 2:48:50 PM PST by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here)
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To: Redwood71

That sentiment is why the West is getting trampled on by violent people who don’t share this creed. It is utterly nonsensical. Left wing pacifists, even ones who aren’t religious, have drawn their ideology from this moral sentiment.


8 posted on 12/23/2017 3:49:17 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: reed13k

I spent half my lie in service to the military, with 20 plus years of it active. It is not easy to do what you have to. But it is easier to do what you can if the other option is not there.

I can’t physically go over there and be involved with an investigation to determine who, what, why, and where. I can only pray for the forgiveness of the offenders and the deliverance of the offended. Hoping for their demise only makes me the same as them when I can’t do anything else, or won’t.

I can only do what I can.

rwood


9 posted on 12/23/2017 4:45:02 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Since I am no longer involved with the federal government, and in this field as a 35L, I am not going to be tasked with finding the killers or determining how and where it was done. What would you have me do? I can only pray for the liberation of both the perpetrator and the offended. If they find them, then do what the law prescribes. If not, I pray they learn that this is wrong and don’t do it again.

I didn’t say it would happen, I didn’t say everyone should, I just know that is all I can do now. If you can do more to stop this type of thing by finding them and punishing them, may there be wings to speed you before they do it again. But everyone knows what needs to be done, and my saying it on a board doesn’t increase the odds of it happening. And I have to answer to my God. At the moment, they will have to answer to theirs whether their God likes what they did or not. I can’t change that. Even with my own prayers for stopping this from further pain.

rwood


10 posted on 12/23/2017 4:56:44 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: nickcarraway

Can’t Mormons adopt them?


11 posted on 12/23/2017 5:48:56 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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