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Mueller makes reckless move with seizure of Trump transition emails
The Hill ^ | December 18, 2017 | 7:00 AM EST | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 12/18/2017 6:56:48 AM PST by Golden Eagle

J. Edgar Hoover used to say that “justice is just incidental to law and order.” It was a telling quote from someone who routinely abused his power in seeking what he viewed as enemies of law and order. Hoover is now a pariah at the FBI and the Justice Department, but his attitude toward the use of federal power lingers like a dormant virus. Too often investigators interpret uncertain legal questions as a license for action.

That seems to be the case with a new and troubling controversy over a massive seizure of emails by special counsel Robert Mueller from the General Services Administration (GSA). Mueller did an end run around Trump transition officials and counsel by seizing tens of thousands of emails from the GSA despite claims of privilege. The move was legally unprecedented and strategically reckless. In a gratuitous muscle play, Mueller may have added a potential complication to the use of evidence that could contaminate much of his investigation in any later trial.

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KEYWORDS: coup; coupattempt; mueller; trump; turley
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To: lodi90
It may be fake news, but both the WP and NYT reported last night that Trump does not plan to fire Mueller, but instead is setting his sights on Sessions and Rosenstein, whom he called “weak.” If he could replace Sessions, he could effectively neuter Rosenstein, without having to remove them both.
21 posted on 12/18/2017 7:23:55 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: rdcbn

Mueller will have a hard time prosecuting anyone because his staff is so tainted with a bewildering array of ethics issues they will all be forced to recuse themselves and resign from any prosecutions


Q: would these lawyers be recused from later representing any HRC rats because they’ve seen priveleged info they weren’t supposed to?


22 posted on 12/18/2017 7:24:26 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: rdcbn

Mueller, Rosenstein and Weissmann can go to prison over Uranium One. They will now go into self-preservation mode, hoping to tamp down the embers potentially leading to a flare up of Uranium One investigations.

If that happens, (and those are the down-cards Trump holds), they can die in prison.

Joe Six-pack “gets” that selling 20% of our Uranium to Russia for $145 million is a million times worse than ANYTHING Trump has even been accused of.


23 posted on 12/18/2017 7:24:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Golden Eagle

He called RR weak? Or both?


24 posted on 12/18/2017 7:25:09 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: Golden Eagle

the problem seems to be associated with whoever took over GSA after richard beckler went to the hospital in august, but also with emily murphy who took over GSA in early december replacing richard beckler. whoever the other person is might be ascertained by a telephone call to the GSA (?).

It is unfortunate that Trump apparently appointed so many deep state moles to positions of power from which they could later screw him.


25 posted on 12/18/2017 7:26:13 AM PST by SteveH
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To: Be Careful

Per reports, Trump is keeping his distance on this one, which probably makes sense in light of Mueeler’s plan to charge him with obstruction. But his surrogates should push it hard, especially if legal minds such as Turley, who isn’t actually a Trump supporter, see the legal merit.


26 posted on 12/18/2017 7:26:46 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: Golden Eagle

He’s not a pariah, he’s a case study.


27 posted on 12/18/2017 7:26:56 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: Golden Eagle

You might want to ask the moderators to fix the headline to reflect that the author is Turley, not Turkey. ;-P


28 posted on 12/18/2017 7:28:32 AM PST by MortMan (I can resist anything, except temptation. /sarc)
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To: Golden Eagle

Oops - forgive my redundant post!


29 posted on 12/18/2017 7:30:48 AM PST by MortMan (I can resist anything, except temptation. /sarc)
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To: Golden Eagle

This is the worrisome sentence in the excellent piece:

It is important to note that Mueller’s move takes his investigation into uncertain legal territory and may ultimately create some new law in his favor. Then again it might not. The question is why Mueller would take the risk.


30 posted on 12/18/2017 7:31:34 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: Golden Eagle

Exactly. Turkey headline caught my eye.


31 posted on 12/18/2017 7:32:37 AM PST by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: txhurl

Supposedly he called Sessions “weak” and Rosenstein “a Democrat.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-wont-fire-mueller-as-campaign-to-discredit-russia-probe-heats-up/2017/12/17/801e8cce-e348-11e7-ab50-621fe0588340_story.html?utm_term=.8d274483b24f

Advisers who have spoken recently with Trump about the Russia investigation said the president was sharply critical of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, as well as Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees the Mueller operation — but did not broach the idea of firing Mueller.

Rather, Trump appeared to be contemplating changes in the Justice Department’s leadership. In recent discussions, two advisers said, Trump has called the attorney general “weak,” and complained that Rosenstein has shown insufficient accountability on the special counsel’s work. A senior official said Trump mocked Rosenstein’s recent testimony on Capitol Hill, saying he looked weak and unable to answer questions. Trump has ranted about Rosenstein as “a Democrat,” one of these advisers said, and characterized him as a threat to his presidency.


32 posted on 12/18/2017 7:32:39 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Charging all those with domestic terrorism and plotting to overthrow the government will get the whole bunch indefinite stays in Club Gitmo.


33 posted on 12/18/2017 7:33:33 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Czech..................


34 posted on 12/18/2017 7:35:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: SteveH
Letter from transition team lawyer to Senate and House Committee Heads names Lenny Loewentritt, general counsel for GSA.
35 posted on 12/18/2017 7:41:02 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Golden Eagle
The big question is why would Mueller be so reckless as break the law to end run proper procedures to obtain the emails when the Transition Team legal counsel had already agreed to fully cooperate with Mueller's Special Prosecution office and produce any documents not subject to privilege.

There is only one possible conclusion that a reasonable persona could make.

Mueller wanted illegal access to privileged communications and he wanted to obtain the emails secretly so his team could ambush Trump Transition Team members with obscure questions rooted the in emails that would cause transition members to mistakenly answer incorrectly and face charges of “Lying to the FBI (or special Prosecutor )”

Using an ambush interview with questions drawn from illegally obtained via FISA unmasking is exactly what McCabe and Strzok did to Gen Flynn and they were trying to manufacture similar charges against other Trump Team members.

Once they had Trump Transition Team members nailed with faked Lying to Mueller , they could squeeze them to produce negative or even false testimony under threat of financial and career destruction. .

36 posted on 12/18/2017 7:41:09 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Golden Eagle

Wow. Keep that for the 38DD chess (as RummyChick, MIA, claimed) crowd.


37 posted on 12/18/2017 7:41:17 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: Cboldt; Travis McGee

names Lenny Loewentritt, general counsel for GSA.


This guy might head up the next row in Travis’ chart.


38 posted on 12/18/2017 7:43:04 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Judge Napolitano is pretty much wrong about everything.


39 posted on 12/18/2017 7:43:58 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Be Careful

So is Beckler now another addition to the growing Body Count?


40 posted on 12/18/2017 7:44:12 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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