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Will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Ever Be Probed by Federal Authorities?
The Post & Email ^ | 12/7/2017 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 12/10/2017 5:08:23 PM PST by Elderberry

In an interview last Friday with “Freedom Friday” host Carl Gallups, Obama birth-certificate lead investigator Mike Zullo revealed for the first time that the “Deep State” prevented a federal investigation of his findings, compiled over a 5+-year period, that the “long-form” birth certificate image posted by the Obama White House in 2011 is a “computer-generated forgery.”

Virtually unknown in the United States prior to the election of Donald J. Trump last year, the term “Deep State” has now been invoked by some newscasters, journalists and commentators as well as by Trump himself through his Twitter account. Left-leaning news outlets reluctantly discussed it beginning in early March, after Trump claimed on Twitter that he and his campaign aides had been “wiretapped” during the final months of the presidential campaign.

On March 9, 2017, Politico Magazine declared, “The Deep State Is a Figment of Steve Bannon’s Imagination,” referring to then-White House Senior Adviser Steve Bannon, now Editor-in-Chief at Breitbart News.

The article begins, featuring a photo of Bannon:

Here’s a handy rule for assessing the credibility of what you’re reading about national security in the Trump era: If somebody uses the term “Deep State,” you can be pretty sure they have no idea what they’re talking about.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
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To: 4Zoltan

I vaguely remember the kerfuffle around that certificate. But no one has ever attempted to explain how 279 children were born between August 4 and August 5. Those certificate numbers represent BIRTHS. Human babies. Not chickens.

Gullible much?

Made me wonder at the time, just who that certificate number actually belonged to.

Or maybe the HDOH uses a random number generator...

See ya. My patience is exhausted.


321 posted on 12/16/2017 10:21:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Think about what Vern Lee said certificates were collected for the month. So all of the August birth certificates are collected, then sorted into regions, then numbered.

How do you explain Ah’Nee’s number?

How do you explain Henderson’s number?

Shouldn’t their numbers be higher then the Nordyke’s?

322 posted on 12/16/2017 10:37:14 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Should be?

AS I don’t know anything about the provenance of those two certificates, I’m not going to attempt to explain that anomaly. There is a theory floating around that the Ah’nee certificate was used to create the LFBC for zero. And no way were there 456 births between August 4 and September 1.

The date stamp at the HDOH wasn’t calibrated properly? Just spat out numbers at random?

That’s the ticket...


324 posted on 12/17/2017 12:03:50 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fantasywriter
Yep. No one who doesn't work professionally with birth and death certificates is going to naturally say 'vital records', they're going to use the layman term of 'archives'.

You know that's right but more importantly, so do all the lurkers reading this thread.

325 posted on 12/17/2017 12:29:16 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Fred Nerks

The problem isn’t that the BC was forged. It was forged.

The problem is that it was forged *legally*.

See, forging BC’s is part of being sheep-dipped, which any employee of BIC could be subjected to, especially if he was being sent to Pakistan as part of Charlie Wilson’s team.

...and look, if you don’t know Charlie Wilson or don’t know the term Sheep-dipping or don’t know who worked for Business International Corporation as his first job out of college or don’t know that BIC is a proven front company for an Agency that does Sheep-dipping then you won’t understand a certain Pakistani passport that is still classified and hidden from the public and you certainly won’t understand why and how a U.S. birth certificate can be legally forged.

Tough luck, kid...


326 posted on 12/17/2017 12:44:45 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Pete Thomas

You moonbats forget you’re on a conservative site. We have watched Leftists lie like rugs for years. You even lie on behalf of a pathological liar. [Many more lies at the link.]

Is President Obama A Pathological Liar?

The Obama Record: The most frightening aspect of this president may not be his radical ideology but his rank dishonesty in selling that ideology. Now he’s been caught lying about family racism.

In “Dreams from My Father,” his 1995 memoir, Obama used the story of his paternal grandfather’s imprisonment and torture at the hands of British colonists in Kenya as an example of white cruelty. He claimed Hussein Onyango Obama was unjustly detained for six months before being released a crippled, lice-ridden “old man.”

In fact, none of it is true, according to Washington Post editor and biographer David Maraniss, who traveled to Kenya to investigate the tale. His grandfather was not detained or beaten by his “white rulers,” as Obama, writing as a 34-year-old lawyer, claimed.

This is only the latest example of a growing body of fabrications, embellishments and outright lies told by this president, who has a real and possibly pathological problem with the truth.

Stacked up, his whoppers would make even Bill Clinton blush. Here’s a sampling:

Lie No. 1: Obama has repeatedly claimed his white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, “fought in Patton’s army,” when he was a clerk with no combat in WWII.

EDITORIALS
Is President Obama A Pathological Liar?

The Obama Record: The most frightening aspect of this president may not be his radical ideology but his rank dishonesty in selling that ideology. Now he’s been caught lying about family racism.

In “Dreams from My Father,” his 1995 memoir, Obama used the story of his paternal grandfather’s imprisonment and torture at the hands of British colonists in Kenya as an example of white cruelty. He claimed Hussein Onyango Obama was unjustly detained for six months before being released a crippled, lice-ridden “old man.”

In fact, none of it is true, according to Washington Post editor and biographer David Maraniss, who traveled to Kenya to investigate the tale. His grandfather was not detained or beaten by his “white rulers,” as Obama, writing as a 34-year-old lawyer, claimed.

This is only the latest example of a growing body of fabrications, embellishments and outright lies told by this president, who has a real and possibly pathological problem with the truth.

Stacked up, his whoppers would make even Bill Clinton blush. Here’s a sampling:

Lie No. 1: Obama has repeatedly claimed his white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, “fought in Patton’s army,” when he was a clerk with no combat in WWII.

Lie No. 2: Obama claimed Dunham, a communist sympathizer, signed up for duty “the day after Pearl Harbor,” when in fact he waited six months.

Lie No. 3: Obama claimed his father “fought when he got back to Kenya against tribalism and nepotism, but ultimately was blackballed from the government,” when in fact he fought against capitalism and lost his job when he advocated communism.

Lie No. 4: Obama has claimed his late mother’s health insurer refused “to pay for her treatment” for cancer while citing a “pre-existing condition,” when Cigna paid all her hospital bills and never denied payment.

Lie No. 5: Obama claimed he and a black high school friend named “Ray” were ostracized in Honolulu, when in fact the friend, Keith Kakugawa, was half-Japanese, and neither of them experienced discrimination.

Lie No. 6: Obama claimed the father of his Indonesian stepfather was killed by Dutch soldiers while fighting for Indonesian independence, when in fact the story turns out to be “a concocted myth in almost all respects,” Maraniss found.

EDITORIALS
Is President Obama A Pathological Liar?

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The Obama Record

The Obama Record: The most frightening aspect of this president may not be his radical ideology but his rank dishonesty in selling that ideology. Now he’s been caught lying about family racism.

In “Dreams from My Father,” his 1995 memoir, Obama used the story of his paternal grandfather’s imprisonment and torture at the hands of British colonists in Kenya as an example of white cruelty. He claimed Hussein Onyango Obama was unjustly detained for six months before being released a crippled, lice-ridden “old man.”

In fact, none of it is true, according to Washington Post editor and biographer David Maraniss, who traveled to Kenya to investigate the tale. His grandfather was not detained or beaten by his “white rulers,” as Obama, writing as a 34-year-old lawyer, claimed.

This is only the latest example of a growing body of fabrications, embellishments and outright lies told by this president, who has a real and possibly pathological problem with the truth.

Stacked up, his whoppers would make even Bill Clinton blush. Here’s a sampling:

Lie No. 1: Obama has repeatedly claimed his white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, “fought in Patton’s army,” when he was a clerk with no combat in WWII.

Lie No. 2: Obama claimed Dunham, a communist sympathizer, signed up for duty “the day after Pearl Harbor,” when in fact he waited six months.

Lie No. 3: Obama claimed his father “fought when he got back to Kenya against tribalism and nepotism, but ultimately was blackballed from the government,” when in fact he fought against capitalism and lost his job when he advocated communism.

Lie No. 4: Obama has claimed his late mother’s health insurer refused “to pay for her treatment” for cancer while citing a “pre-existing condition,” when Cigna paid all her hospital bills and never denied payment.

Lie No. 5: Obama claimed he and a black high school friend named “Ray” were ostracized in Honolulu, when in fact the friend, Keith Kakugawa, was half-Japanese, and neither of them experienced discrimination.

Lie No. 6: Obama claimed the father of his Indonesian stepfather was killed by Dutch soldiers while fighting for Indonesian independence, when in fact the story turns out to be “a concocted myth in almost all respects,” Maraniss found.

Lie No. 7: Obama claimed his parents decided to marry in the excitement of the Selma civil-rights march of 1965 — and that he personally has “a claim on Selma” — when in fact they were married several years earlier.

Lie No. 8: Obama claimed his father got to study in the U.S. thanks to JFK’s efforts to bring “young Africans over to America,” when in fact the Kenyan airlift his father participated in occurred in 1959 under Ike.

Lie No. 9: Obama submitted a phony bio to his book publicist claiming he was “born in Kenya.”

Lie No. 10: Obama denied being a member of the socialist New Party, when a member roster of the Chicago chapter of the party lists him joining on Jan. 11, 1996.

Lie No. 11: Obama claimed he had only a passing acquaintance with Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, when in fact they held a fundraiser for their Hyde Park neighbor in their living room, and years later, while Obama served in the U.S. Senate, hosted a barbecue for him in their backyard.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-tells-stories-to-support-radical-agenda/


327 posted on 12/17/2017 2:14:49 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Natufian

Of all the deranged Obot ‘explanations,’ I have heard, yours is the most psychotic. You suppose Abercrombie was acting all alone. He had no staff. There wasn’t one aide or HI official he knew of that could clarify anything to do with Obama’s BC. There was only Abercrombie, who somehow located the vital records, discovered “something written down,” and thought he was in the archives.

Your scenario has insanity written all over it. The view from HI at the time differs in every detail:

‘BY ROBERT PAUL REYES – A few weeks ago Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, with much fanfare, vowed to end the Obama birth certificate controversy once and for all. He appeared before TV cameras, several times, promising to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii, to eliminate the controversy as a campaign issue in 2012.

A couple of days ago Gov. Abercrombie announced the results of his investigation:

“Officials in Hawaii have tracked down papers indicating that President Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.”

“Our investigations indicates there is a recording of his birth”

“It actually exists in the archives, written down”

Gov. Abercrombie`s doublespeak was met with skepticism and outright derision.’

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/gov-neil-abercrombie-ends-quest-to-prove-obama-was-born-in-hawaii/


328 posted on 12/17/2017 2:25:33 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Southack

https://www.1776channel.com/2015/02/26/us/exclusive-hawaii-official-who-certified-white-house-certificate-of-live-birth-and-mother-of-twins-who-claimed-to-remember-president-obamas-birth-both-tied-to-us-government-eugenic/

there’s always more...


329 posted on 12/17/2017 3:00:11 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fantasywriter
You're embarassing yourself. Apart from wilfully ignoring the the implications of the first two paragraphs of his quote, you've decided that because he uses the everyday word of 'archives' rather than the technical descriptor of 'vital records', he's telling you (and only you), the exact opposite of what he's telling everyone else.

At the same time, you've got your fingers in your ears, singing la-la-la so as not to notice Fukino's statements about having seen the BC with her own eyes at least twice.

You do realise that most FReepers will be associating you with the type that spins yarns about ninja frogmen if you keep this up?

330 posted on 12/17/2017 3:22:02 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Fantasywriter

BTW, if the best you’ve got are posts from bloggers writing from Virginia, you’re in deeper trouble than I imagined.


331 posted on 12/17/2017 3:50:22 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Fred Nerks

Acccord to the CDC in August, 1961 there were 1460 births in Hawaii.

Table 2.2

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf


332 posted on 12/17/2017 7:21:36 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan; Fred Nerks

Between the Ah’Nee certificate (09945) and the Sunahara certificate (11080) there are 1135 births. Since there were 1460 births in August, 1961 the range of known births fits.


333 posted on 12/17/2017 8:10:13 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Natufian; Fantasywriter

Abercrombie said in December, 2010 that he was

A) going to see what he could do legally to release documents (governor cannot legally release a birth certificate, he cannot even go and look at the birth certificates)

B) he was not going to ask Obama for permission to release his document.

Under those parameters no birth certificate was ever going to be released by Abercrombie. There was no need to search the DOH for a birth certificate.

According to the CNN reporter (Ed Henry) who interviewed Abercrombie, he wanted to release more documentation. More means additional or other.

That was Abercrombie’s goal - find documentation other than the birth certificate to prove a Hawaiian birth. The DOH houses vital records which cannot be unilaterally released by the governor so they went looking in the state archives and found something written down.


334 posted on 12/17/2017 8:11:24 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Natufian

You’ve made a complete break with reality. You expect conservatives to side with an Obot over a fellow conservative. My crime, in your eyes, is that I won’t twist what Abercrombie actually said out of all recognition, just to please a psychotic Obot.

You can’t even admit Obama lies pathologically. At this point most people—even non-conservatives—have come to their senses re Obama. His post-presidential actions have been creepy. He’s running around meeting with world leaders, imagining he’s still POTUS. He’s mentally unbalanced, but not nearly as much so as those who continue to believe the Obama myths.


335 posted on 12/17/2017 9:04:09 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

You can rewrite history forever, and you’ll never be anything more than an Obama shill. Like the other Obot troll, you cannot admit this person that you have defended on FR for so many years lies pathologically. Mentally he’s a mess. Malignant Narcissism is a severe personality disorder. You can see it continue to play out as Obama continues to meet with world leaders and criticize America [under Trump] on foreign soil. No other ex-POTUS has behaved this way. None has been this mentally ill.

His defenders behave similarly. They will argue forever that Abercrombie didn’t say what he said. That’s a part of reality they simply cannot accept. But he said it, and everyone else knows what he meant.

‘Officials in Hawaii have tracked down papers indicating that President Obama was indeed born in their state, according to its new governor.

Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who took office in December, told Honolulu’s Star-Advertiser on Tuesday that “our investigation” indicates there is a recording of his birth.

“It actually exists in the archives, written down,” he said.’


336 posted on 12/17/2017 9:15:40 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; Natufian

Thanks for proving my point. They could not legally release the birth certificate so they found “more documentation” in the archives.


337 posted on 12/17/2017 10:19:58 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter
Conservatives are rational people. You're not.

What do you think Abercrombie meant when he said this:

"Officials in Hawaii have tracked down papers indicating that President Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.”

“Our investigations indicates there is a recording of his birth”

338 posted on 12/17/2017 10:54:30 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: 4Zoltan

All that had been released up to the point at which Abercrombie said he wanted to release more, was the certificate of live birth. Abercrombie wanted to release more than that because, appearing as it did, first on DailyKos without attribution, all it did was raise more questions. But beyond the certificate of live birth, all Abercrombie’s “investigation,” turned up was ‘something actually written down in the archives.’


339 posted on 12/17/2017 11:24:08 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Natufian

Abercrombie meant exactly what he said. It’s been posted ~a dozen times. Hint: it wasn’t a BC.


340 posted on 12/17/2017 11:25:30 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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