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The Unexamined Brutality of the Male Libido (NY Slimes)
New York Slimes ^ | November 25, 2017 | STEPHEN MARCHE

Posted on 11/26/2017 5:42:39 PM PST by EdnaMode

After weeks of continuously unfolding abuse scandals, men have become, quite literally, unbelievable. What any given man might say about gender politics and how he treats women are separate and unrelated phenomena. Liberal or conservative, feminist or chauvinist, woke or benighted, young or old, found on Fox News or in The New Republic, a man’s stated opinions have next to no relationship to behavior.

Through sheer bulk, the string of revelations about men from Bill Cosby to Roger Ailes to Harvey Weinstein to Louis C.K. to Al Franken and, this week, to Charlie Rose and John Lasseter, have forced men to confront what they hate to think about most: the nature of men in general. This time the accusations aren’t against some freak geography teacher, some frat running amok in a Southern college town. They’re against men of all different varieties, in different industries, with different sensibilities, bound together, solely, by the grotesquerie of their sexuality.

Men arrive at this moment of reckoning woefully unprepared. Most are shocked by the reality of women’s lived experience. Almost all are uninterested or unwilling to grapple with the problem at the heart of all this: the often ugly and dangerous nature of the male libido.

For most of history, we’ve taken for granted the implicit brutality of male sexuality. In 1976, the radical feminist and pornography opponent Andrea Dworkin said that the only sex between a man and a woman that could be undertaken without violence was sex with a flaccid penis: “I think that men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote. In the third century A.D., it is widely believed, the great Catholic theologian Origen, working on roughly the same principle, castrated himself.

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KEYWORDS: antimalebias; antimanbias; feminism; genderwars; homoactivism; malelibido; men; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; nyslimes; nytimes
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To: EdnaMode

Men bad. Women good.


41 posted on 11/26/2017 7:09:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Yes, when talking about sexuality, it's always a good idea to bring up Andrea Dworkin .

Bringing up Andrea Dworkin always results in bringing up lunch.

Yesterday's lunch.

42 posted on 11/26/2017 7:20:10 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: EdnaMode

This article is ridiculously stupid and small minded. Men are a bit more complex than their sexual desires, and their sexual desires are both necessary and welcome in this world. Both women and men have powerful sexual drives.

Little boys, raised by mothers, are seen from day one as being sweet and kind as well as boisterous and playful. I’ve raised three and none were particularly brutish as children. They knew by kindergarten a) not to push others around to do their whims, and b) why. When boys try bullying and coercing, they should correctly receive the natural punishment of social banning and parental punishments. They learn to enjoy fairness. They play sports, and have a better time when everyone plays by the rules.

Only the truly sociopathic men grow up to rape and abuse women. Men boldly pursuing women, but respecting their wishes and backing off when told, are still good men. Women are powerful creatures too, and their sexual desires drive men in powerful ways too. But within civilization, most sexual interaction between men and women is inoffensive.

How dare this author blame society for a sick creep like Weinstein? Weinstein was a sociopath and those hanging onto him for various reasons were his co-conspirators, acting out of some sort of fear. It wasn’t his raging hormones that made him be cruel and attack innocents, and threaten others. It was his CHOICE to choose evil.

Men shouldn’t be ashamed of being sexual creatures. None of us would be here without them, and women appreciate good, sexually aware, civilized men.


43 posted on 11/26/2017 7:34:07 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Wuli

Wow, your comments are right on.


44 posted on 11/26/2017 7:36:09 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Thurifer the Censer

Funny thing: I lived in the dorms for two years. The first year, I was on a woman’s floor. There was a male floor upstairs. Our floor had the coolest girls and theirs had the coolest guys and you know what happened, lots of hookups. The second year, the floors were coed. On our floor, we were all friends. It was like a kibbutz in that way: almost no hookups on our floor between the girls and guys. We even “showered together” (we all wore bathrobes into the individual shower stalls). It was like siblings. We even found the phenomenon interesting at the time.


45 posted on 11/26/2017 7:40:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: EdnaMode

“Where do they come up with these articles?”

Blue-pilled, pussy hat wearing beta male cuckadoodles.


46 posted on 11/26/2017 7:53:37 PM PST by Noumenon ("progressive” describes the progression of a terminal disease.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

If Lurch had a sister...


47 posted on 11/26/2017 7:54:19 PM PST by Noumenon ("progressive” describes the progression of a terminal disease.)
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To: Wuli
YEP...it's called .... PROPAGANDA!
48 posted on 11/26/2017 8:00:50 PM PST by goodnesswins (There were 1.41 MILLION NON Profit orgs in 2013 with $1.73 TRILLION in REVENUE)
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To: NorthMountain

Actually, he is (at least publicly) straight and married:

https://www.thestar.com/life/relationships/2017/03/17/qa-author-stephen-marche-and-male-loneliness.html

But seeing as he lives in Sodom East (NYC) and is a liberal journalist, his world view is thoroughly corrupted.

And like all good liberal hacks, he has no problem in painting with a very very broad brush when it comes to the group target for their hate.

The problem with his analysis is that he thinks that the problem is based in male sexuality when it is really the corrupting nature of power being expressed through abusive sexual conduct by certain men towards women and men the abusers feel are vulnerable.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely goes the old saying. But everybody knows that and rather that recognize these scandals are yet another example in a very long line of examples, Mr. Marche has decided that all men everywhere, whether they have this power or not, are to blame and must reform themselves by talking to each other.

That will probably work among his fellow travelers in echo chamber of Manhattan. I’d like to see him try to strike up such a conversation in, say, Waco, Texas or Kingman, Arizona. He might, if he is lucky, get off with just an explicative-laden dressing down.

Since the article is underpinned by claims of the need for equality between the sexes, it is curious to note that there haven’t been any salacious disclosures yet concerning sexually abusive conduct by powerful women. It is hard to believe that the the corrupting nature of this kind of power is limited only to men. Is it that powerful women express its corrupting nature is other ways? Or are the abuses out there but being suppressed through consensus (or intimidation) because it would be distracting from the “all men are evil” narrative being put forward by the anti-patriarchy, anti-white, and LBGT elements of the liberal/left?


49 posted on 11/26/2017 8:11:18 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: EdnaMode
All this current outrage at male sexual harassment (particularly in the Hollywood circuit) reminds me of an old joke....

So a Hollywood producer is watching a very young starlet's screen test and tells her in confidence... "You're so sweet and innocent looking. I hate to say it, but it REALLY turns me on. Would you have sex with me for a million dollars and a starring role?

The starlet is shocked at his suggestion, but responds that he IS a powerful producer, so she guesses it would be okay to have sex with him for a million dollars and the role.

The producer says "Great! Would you do it for $10?"

"What do you think I am?" said the starlet, indigently?

The producer responds "Oh, we've ESTABLISHED that, my dear. Now we're just negotiating price..."

50 posted on 11/26/2017 8:13:21 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: EdnaMode

If it has not bee examined how do they know that it is brutal?


51 posted on 11/26/2017 8:14:38 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: EdnaMode

Anything and everything unrestrained has great potential for evil. That is where self control comes in. We are humans, not animals.


52 posted on 11/26/2017 8:25:42 PM PST by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
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To: EdnaMode
“I think that men will have to give up their precious erections,” she wrote.

From my cold dead hands, hag.

(Wait a minute, that doesn't sound right...)

53 posted on 11/26/2017 8:38:14 PM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: FreedomPoster

https://earloftaint.com/


54 posted on 11/26/2017 9:03:16 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: EdnaMode
They’re against men of all different varieties, in different industries, with different sensibilities, bound together, solely, by the grotesquerie of their sexuality lack of good morals.

There, fixed it!

Regards,

55 posted on 11/26/2017 9:06:54 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: EdnaMode

Painting a group a people (an entire sex, no less) with the bad actions of a few is prejudice and the the ultimate in sexism.

How dare they!


56 posted on 11/26/2017 11:14:10 PM PST by AZLiberty (The logical endpoint of "zero-tolerance history" is zero history.)
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To: Yaelle

This article is ridiculously stupid and small minded. Men are a bit more complex than their sexual desires, and their sexual desires are both necessary and welcome in this world. Both women and men have powerful sexual drives.
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Your lead of your posting deserves to be repeated!

The rest of your posting was great, as well. Well said!


57 posted on 11/27/2017 3:26:04 AM PST by octex
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To: RightGeek

Thanks. That guy is something else!

I’m glad we all get to see the output of people with way too much time on their hands, thanks to the Internet.


58 posted on 11/27/2017 4:24:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: octex

Thanks! I’m so sick of male bashing, and blaming human men for Harvey Weinstein is like blaming women for Hillary! Criminals MADE EVIL CHOICES.


59 posted on 11/27/2017 6:55:17 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: EdnaMode
It is amazing how the NY Slimes ignored the rapes and sexual attacks by its formerly beloved Bill Clinton for decades!


60 posted on 11/27/2017 7:23:03 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The fastest way to drain the swamp is to simply expose it! Sunlight does aid in evaporation!)
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