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Why hunters are trading in traditional hunting rifles for the AR-15
Guns.com ^ | 11/17/17 | Jack Billings

Posted on 11/18/2017 6:57:29 AM PST by Simon Green

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To: dhs12345

“Wonder if a low tech bolt action is more reliable than a semiauto. Especially, in adverse environments. When accuracy and reliability are important, I’d choose a bolt action. Or a revolver, too. Same idea.”

I like Ruger single shots or bolts for one shot/one kill situations. For groups of coyotes or feral hogs then a semi auto.


21 posted on 11/18/2017 7:29:13 AM PST by Bonemaker
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To: Riley
BWAHAHAHAHA!

Carry in a pocket a few rifle rounds. A .223, a .30-06 and maybe a .300 win Mag. Ask them to pick out the AR round.

They'll point to the .50 BMG round on the table and say "You won't catch me in a trick question! It's that one!"

22 posted on 11/18/2017 7:30:42 AM PST by Simon Green (<i>)
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To: Simon Green
remedial actions to clear malfunctions....

The only rifle I know of that's so basically shoddy it has a special plunger to clear all the jams. Ugly as sin, to boot. To think of all our men betrayed by that rifle over the years.
23 posted on 11/18/2017 7:31:16 AM PST by golux
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To: Simon Green
Touting more caliber options, efficiency and modularity, the versatile platform is transforming the way hunters down prey, but what’s causing hunters to ditch traditional rifle set-ups in favor of modern sporting rifles?

Ah NOW I see it but the lack of copy and proof editors shows itself once again. Thank you.

24 posted on 11/18/2017 7:32:54 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Riley

“A .223, a .30-06 and maybe a .300 win Mag. Ask them to pick out the AR round.”

Did that with my lib brother. .233, .308, and 7.62 x 54R. He grabbed the Russian round and told me it would tear a deer in half. The guy has never fired a gun in his life.

L


25 posted on 11/18/2017 7:34:18 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Elderberry

“...the Garand was a fair-weather rifle, excellent on the practice range but far from good enough for the Marines when the going got tough.***

I remember reading of bolt action armed Marines in the Pacific, following new replacements armed with a Garand. When asked why the vet marine was following the new replacement so close, the Marine stated that if the replacement was hit, HE was going to grab the Garand and toss the bolt action!

Dad carried one across Europe.


26 posted on 11/18/2017 7:34:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: elcid1970

Yep, hunters need that 30 round magazine/clip for “quick follow up shots”. Sometimes it takes 5 or 6 rounds to make sure a rabbit is _really_ down.


27 posted on 11/18/2017 7:37:24 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Simon Green
Uh, since no one has defined the acronym yet:

"Modern Sporting Rifle".

A marketing term, really, thought up by those who advocate for the AR platform as a hunting rifle. Fine by me, honestly. It makes a lot of sense, although it does limit one's choice of cartridges to those that can be accommodated by the AR action, which may or may not be a problem. (In which case, the obvious upgrade would be to an AR-10 platform.)

Have fun, guys, just please don't throw those old bolt guns in the trash. I'll take them if you don't want them.

28 posted on 11/18/2017 7:41:22 AM PST by OKSooner (Be careful, there are many pitfalls on the long and winding road of life! - POTUS Donald J. Trump)
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“MSR” defined in post 28, with opinion. Meant to post to the whole thread.


29 posted on 11/18/2017 7:44:22 AM PST by OKSooner (Be careful, there are many pitfalls on the long and winding road of life! - POTUS Donald J. Trump)
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To: Lurker

Whenever I confront some subject that I know nothing about, I admit it. First to myself, and then openly. It’s an opportunity to learn something, to me.

Liberals seem to be incapable of doing this, especially where firearms are concerned. I could live with simply ignoring such people, but when they sneer at me for my ‘lack of intellect and appreciation of nuance’, it irritates me.

It’s like being lectured by the slowest kid in the class, who everybody else is running rings around.


30 posted on 11/18/2017 7:44:24 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Bonemaker

Yup. Firearms have specialized functions.


31 posted on 11/18/2017 7:44:52 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: elcid1970

No not 47s, but AK-103s ... its the Deer-Russian connection thing - for when you want to reach out an touch someone many times ...


32 posted on 11/18/2017 7:46:42 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Riley

I’m happy to have conversations about “gun control” with people. I’ll usually listen politely and when they’re done I reply:

“I’ll never willingly surrender my guns. You’ll have to kill me to get them. Your move, Skippy.”

L


33 posted on 11/18/2017 7:47:23 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

My sister’s 1st husband had to turn in his M14 for a M16. After too many jams, he re-requisitioned himself his orig M14.


34 posted on 11/18/2017 7:47:29 AM PST by Elderberry
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My life once depended on a “piece of crap” M16.
The damn thing jammed on the 2nd round and I had to duck and scramble to repair the jam while under enemy fire. This happened a whole 2 weeks after they took our highly reliable M14s from us and replaced them with the M16s.
Excuse me if I have no love or respect for the M16 or its civilian version the AR15.


35 posted on 11/18/2017 7:49:20 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: Elderberry

I’d do the same.


36 posted on 11/18/2017 7:49:48 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: dhs12345
I have zero problems with my $350.00 Savage 30.06 bolt action.

Why the heck would I spend over $1000 for a hunting rifle ?

37 posted on 11/18/2017 7:58:58 AM PST by onona
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Yep, Simon Green. When they come back with ‘nothing left of the deer’, you know they haven’t got a clue about the subject. Better to leave them in their ignorance. You’ll never change their minds.


38 posted on 11/18/2017 7:59:13 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: Lazamataz

“No, they misspelled Mrs. They were talking about a lineup of other peoples’ wives.”

Laz, you just taught us a lot about yourself!

;^)


39 posted on 11/18/2017 7:59:38 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: dhs12345
Wonder if a low tech bolt action is more reliable than a semiauto. Especially, in adverse environments.

Depends on how adverse the environment is. Bolt-actions are actually more prone to moisture intruding into the firing pin channel and freezing than other designs. Sarco and other militaria vendors used to sell canvas action covers for rifles, mostly WWI-vintage stuff.

In general, any firearm that has proven to be reliable on the battlefield is adequately reliable for hunting.

40 posted on 11/18/2017 8:01:44 AM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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