Posted on 11/18/2017 6:57:29 AM PST by Simon Green
“Wonder if a low tech bolt action is more reliable than a semiauto. Especially, in adverse environments. When accuracy and reliability are important, I’d choose a bolt action. Or a revolver, too. Same idea.”
I like Ruger single shots or bolts for one shot/one kill situations. For groups of coyotes or feral hogs then a semi auto.
Carry in a pocket a few rifle rounds. A .223, a .30-06 and maybe a .300 win Mag. Ask them to pick out the AR round.
They'll point to the .50 BMG round on the table and say "You won't catch me in a trick question! It's that one!"
Ah NOW I see it but the lack of copy and proof editors shows itself once again. Thank you.
“A .223, a .30-06 and maybe a .300 win Mag. Ask them to pick out the AR round.”
Did that with my lib brother. .233, .308, and 7.62 x 54R. He grabbed the Russian round and told me it would tear a deer in half. The guy has never fired a gun in his life.
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“...the Garand was a fair-weather rifle, excellent on the practice range but far from good enough for the Marines when the going got tough.***
I remember reading of bolt action armed Marines in the Pacific, following new replacements armed with a Garand. When asked why the vet marine was following the new replacement so close, the Marine stated that if the replacement was hit, HE was going to grab the Garand and toss the bolt action!
Dad carried one across Europe.
Yep, hunters need that 30 round magazine/clip for “quick follow up shots”. Sometimes it takes 5 or 6 rounds to make sure a rabbit is _really_ down.
"Modern Sporting Rifle".
A marketing term, really, thought up by those who advocate for the AR platform as a hunting rifle. Fine by me, honestly. It makes a lot of sense, although it does limit one's choice of cartridges to those that can be accommodated by the AR action, which may or may not be a problem. (In which case, the obvious upgrade would be to an AR-10 platform.)
Have fun, guys, just please don't throw those old bolt guns in the trash. I'll take them if you don't want them.
“MSR” defined in post 28, with opinion. Meant to post to the whole thread.
Whenever I confront some subject that I know nothing about, I admit it. First to myself, and then openly. It’s an opportunity to learn something, to me.
Liberals seem to be incapable of doing this, especially where firearms are concerned. I could live with simply ignoring such people, but when they sneer at me for my ‘lack of intellect and appreciation of nuance’, it irritates me.
It’s like being lectured by the slowest kid in the class, who everybody else is running rings around.
Yup. Firearms have specialized functions.
No not 47s, but AK-103s ... its the Deer-Russian connection thing - for when you want to reach out an touch someone many times ...
I’m happy to have conversations about “gun control” with people. I’ll usually listen politely and when they’re done I reply:
“I’ll never willingly surrender my guns. You’ll have to kill me to get them. Your move, Skippy.”
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My sister’s 1st husband had to turn in his M14 for a M16. After too many jams, he re-requisitioned himself his orig M14.
My life once depended on a “piece of crap” M16.
The damn thing jammed on the 2nd round and I had to duck and scramble to repair the jam while under enemy fire. This happened a whole 2 weeks after they took our highly reliable M14s from us and replaced them with the M16s.
Excuse me if I have no love or respect for the M16 or its civilian version the AR15.
I’d do the same.
Why the heck would I spend over $1000 for a hunting rifle ?
Yep, Simon Green. When they come back with ‘nothing left of the deer’, you know they haven’t got a clue about the subject. Better to leave them in their ignorance. You’ll never change their minds.
“No, they misspelled Mrs. They were talking about a lineup of other peoples’ wives.”
Laz, you just taught us a lot about yourself!
;^)
Depends on how adverse the environment is. Bolt-actions are actually more prone to moisture intruding into the firing pin channel and freezing than other designs. Sarco and other militaria vendors used to sell canvas action covers for rifles, mostly WWI-vintage stuff.
In general, any firearm that has proven to be reliable on the battlefield is adequately reliable for hunting.
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