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A top secret desert assembly plant starts ramping up to build Northrop's B-21 bomber
L A Times ^ | 11/10/2017 | Ralph Vartabedian, W.J. Hennigan and Samantha Masunaga

Posted on 11/13/2017 9:39:50 AM PST by BenLurkin

Northrop won the bomber contract in 2015... activity is ramping up sharply under an Air Force budget that has reached $2 billion for this fiscal year.

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The project marks a sharp turnaround in the fortunes of the Southern California aerospace industry, which has been atrophying since the end of the Cold War. It was widely assumed that the region would never again be home to a large aircraft manufacturing program and now it has one of the largest in modern history. The program is breathing new life into an industry that once defined the Southern California economy.

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A crude drawing of the plane released by the Air Force seems to resemble the company’s B-2 bomber, but Donovan and others say the new plane is not a derivative but a “clean sheet” design. It is supposed to carry nuclear weapons, though the Air Force does not plan to certify it for such missions until two years after it first becomes operational, a cost-saving decision that the House Armed Services Committee criticized in a 2013 report.

... When the B-2 was built, some experts claimed it looked no bigger than a hummingbird on a radar screen. The B-21 would have to be even stealthier. The preliminary design of the bomber’s stealth characteristics was “investigated in detail against current and anticipated threats,” according to a Congressional Research Service report released in June.

The plane will be operated either by an onboard crew or autonomously, the report said. Without a crew, the bomber could linger much longer over targets, requiring fewer sorties and holding an enemy hostage much longer. Unlike the B-2, it is planned as part of a “family of systems,” implying that it would fly with other aircraft or weapons systems, though government officials declined to say anything about it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aerospace; b21; northop; northropgrumman
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1 posted on 11/13/2017 9:39:50 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: EveningStar

ping


2 posted on 11/13/2017 9:40:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Heck of a secret!


3 posted on 11/13/2017 9:40:54 AM PST by SIDENET (My next tagline will be so awesome.)
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To: BenLurkin
Crude drawing:


4 posted on 11/13/2017 9:42:53 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: BenLurkin

In 1975 I worked for Boeing at VAFB, CA and was first in line for layoff.

I was offered a position in Lancaster to work on the B-1.

As a 21 yr. old single guy, that didn’t sound very appealing, so I declined and focused on college until I landed a job w Martin Marietta.


5 posted on 11/13/2017 9:46:38 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: BenLurkin

Not a big fan of Northrop. Boeing, Douglas and Lockheed always felt better under my a$$.


6 posted on 11/13/2017 9:47:18 AM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: BenLurkin

“A top secret desert assembly plant...”

Not no more it ain’t.


7 posted on 11/13/2017 9:47:56 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: BenLurkin

The original design of the B2 was very similar to this new bomber, however at the last minute the Air Force added the additional requirement of low-level penetration.

that’s why it’s trailing-edge featured those extra set of ji-jags.

This tells me the new bomber is probably not designed for low-level penetration.


8 posted on 11/13/2017 9:56:26 AM PST by gaijin (Basically Obama lawyers would blatantly make up some totally groundless allegation against a fat cas)
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To: BenLurkin

If its a sektit why are they talking about it.....??


9 posted on 11/13/2017 10:01:38 AM PST by njslim
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To: SIDENET

If I remember correctly, when they rolled out the B-2, somebody forgot to issue a No Fly Zone restriction.

Because of that there is a Photo of the B-2 from above that shows the “Top Secret” Shape of the Fuselage from above.

I think it was taken by a Photographer who worked for an Aviation Magazine.

Top Secret is in the eye of the beholder.


10 posted on 11/13/2017 10:06:24 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: BenLurkin
The plane will be operated either by an onboard crew or autonomously, the report said. Without a crew, the bomber could linger much longer over targets,

Are there two different versions of the plane, or can the same plane be flown either way? If it's the same plane, why would the presence of a crew limit its loiter time?

11 posted on 11/13/2017 10:08:01 AM PST by sphinx
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To: BenLurkin

So Northrop finally gets to build the flying wing. When was the first one built? 1947?


12 posted on 11/13/2017 10:17:49 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: sphinx

No need for crew life support equipment, more room for fuel.


13 posted on 11/13/2017 10:19:22 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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14 posted on 11/13/2017 10:56:21 AM PST by EveningStar (I am a Non-Cultist Trump Supporter.)
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15 posted on 11/13/2017 10:57:04 AM PST by EveningStar (I am a Non-Cultist Trump Supporter.)
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To: G Larry

Lucky you didn’t. When they closed the original B1 line they were dbags about the way they did it. Guys were used to layoffs then as it went with the territory. One day the workers came in an found all of their tool boxes outside the gate where anyone could have taken them. That’s how they knew the were out of a job.


16 posted on 11/13/2017 11:06:42 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: sphinx

” If it’s the same plane, why would the presence of a crew limit its loiter time? “

Radiation dose on a nuclear mission.

Plus, you can remove seats, AC, galley, head to pack more fuel.


17 posted on 11/13/2017 11:12:22 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Kickass Conservative

Heck, NG had a cardboard cutout of it in their lobby. No secret there.


18 posted on 11/13/2017 11:13:31 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Parley Baer
How was your nap, Rip?


19 posted on 11/13/2017 11:23:12 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: MCF; DBrow
No need for crew life support equipment, more room for fuel.

That's the only think I could think of, which implies two variants of the aircraft.

20 posted on 11/13/2017 11:53:53 AM PST by sphinx
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