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1 posted on 11/11/2017 6:22:44 AM PST by SandRat
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Illegals have the right to vote?


2 posted on 11/11/2017 6:24:26 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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The lawyers say they've sampled more than 2,000 state registration forms which were rejected because applicants had failed to provide the required proof of citizenship. Of that group, fewer than 15 percent successfully registered after receiving notice of the rejection. "Therefore, many eligible voters across Arizona have been disenfranchised by these unnecessary bureaucratic policies,'' the lawsuit states.

How do you prove they are eligible voters without producing proof of citizenship?

3 posted on 11/11/2017 6:24:58 AM PST by marron
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To: SandRat

“I am who I am.” “Give me a ballot.”


4 posted on 11/11/2017 6:25:21 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (White is the new Black.)
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BS.

There are no “federal elections” - the constitution is clear here - all votes are for state representation, either in the form of actual representatives or for “electors” which will vote as decided in the electoral college.

Further, the constitution gives the STATES the power to determine eligibility requirements with the exception of age and... BEING A CITIZEN.


5 posted on 11/11/2017 6:29:26 AM PST by Skywise
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“At least 26,000 voters in Maricopa County alone have been disenfranchised by these policies,’’ the lawsuit states.”

What are their names and addresses?


6 posted on 11/11/2017 6:34:55 AM PST by JPJones (Who is FOR tariffs? George Washington, Ronald Reagan and Me.)
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Why does the League of United Latin American Citizens and the Arizona Students Association leadership want illegal aliens to vote?

Why?

Perhaps they want to subvert the proper outcome of the election. Wouldn’t that be a crime?

Why aren’t they under criminal investigation?

Why?


7 posted on 11/11/2017 6:39:50 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: SandRat

I need an ID to buy Sudafed, spray paint, and to get on an airplane.

People without IDs in the USA are either illegally here or they “lost” it because of their outstanding warrants.


8 posted on 11/11/2017 6:45:01 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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“At least 26,000 voters in Maricopa County alone have been disenfranchised by these policies,’’ the lawsuit states.”

The proof of citizenship is nothing more than a birth certificate. The state or federal people have a copy of it unless it does not exist due to it never being created as there was no birth within the confines of the US.

A person is capable of getting a birth certificate overnight if it exists:

https://www.expressvitals.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term={QueryString}&utm_campaign=Google+PPC&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn-WDvuG21wIVkMBkCh3zMwf1EAAYAiAAEgIuOPD_BwE

Although the process varies state to state, these general steps can help you get started. Replace your birth certificate. Find the vital records office in the state where you were born. Check to find out if you can obtain a certified copy of yourbirth certificate without any identification and follow the instructions.

So this isn’t a matter of being disenfranchised, it is a matter of the person either not doing the work or is here illegally or is not allowed to vote.

rwood


9 posted on 11/11/2017 6:49:53 AM PST by Redwood71
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And they contend that those whose state registrations are rejected for lack of citizenship proof are not informed of that option.

That's the whole issue, isn't it? People who are not citizens actually do NOT have a right to vote. And if they are citizens, they should have no trouble producing proof.

10 posted on 11/11/2017 6:50:39 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Legal papers filed Tuesday in federal court here acknowledge that state law requires would-be voters to produce certain identification when registering. That requirement has been upheld in prior court rulings.

But attorneys for the League of United Latin American Citizens and the Arizona Students Association point out that the U.S. Supreme Court has said that state law does not — and cannot — prevent people from registering to vote for federal elections using a federally approved registration form. And they contend that those whose state registrations are rejected for lack of citizenship proof are not informed of that option.
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OH NOOOOOOOEZ !!!

Illegal aliens cant even register to vote cause they aint gotz any ID that sez theyz American citizens !!!

How dare the government stop the dacacas from dreamin about breaking more laws !!!


11 posted on 11/11/2017 6:56:40 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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The solution is for Congress to clarify the law. Either:

1) Each state can determine its own criteria subject only to the 14th Amendment Due Process of Law that explicitly applies only to Citizens.

2) Increase the central government control of elections by telling each state how to run its own business and further turning the states into nothing less than federal agencies and not sovereign states at all.


14 posted on 11/11/2017 7:06:08 AM PST by spintreebob
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If they get rejected for not having proper identification an ICE officer should go to their house to help them get proper ID if they are citizens and a nice ride to the border if they are not. Problem solved.


16 posted on 11/11/2017 7:13:23 AM PST by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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How many legitimate citizens are denied their right to vote because some illegitimate voter cast a ballot that cancelled out the true citizen’s vote? The claim of denial of the right to vote cuts both ways.


20 posted on 11/11/2017 9:19:35 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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According to obongodrums; anyone who votes is a citizen.

Of course he has it backwards as he usually did and does. You have to be a citizen to vote and proving it should be no problem at all to register legally and properly to protect the sanctity of the ballot box.

Imagine the chaos if non citizens were allowed to vote. Why bother having a country at all? Why bother having a government to vote for?


21 posted on 11/11/2017 9:20:53 AM PST by Boomer (It'sOK2BWhite)
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You also can't cash a check or buy cigarettes without some kind of I.D. "Disenfranchising" smokers and check bouncers has got to stop!

sarc/

22 posted on 11/11/2017 10:16:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (2017 - The year the liberals' "sexual revolution" strikes back!)
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The lawyers say they've sampled more than 2,000 state registration forms which were rejected because applicants had failed to provide the required proof of citizenship. Of that group, fewer than 15 percent successfully registered after receiving notice of the rejection.

"Therefore, many eligible voters across Arizona have been disenfranchised by these unnecessary bureaucratic policies,'' the lawsuit states.

More likely 85% were trying to register to vote but they were not legal citizens. I mean 15% of those rejected did bring forth proof and were allowed to vote. Was someone holding a gun to the heads of the other 85%? I don't think so. This case will be shot down, as well it should be.

25 posted on 11/11/2017 11:12:17 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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What about those discriminated against, because their vote is diluted by illegal votes?


26 posted on 11/11/2017 11:25:40 AM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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“More to the point, that form requires no proof of citizenship but only that those signing up swear, under penalty of perjury, that they are eligible to vote.”

Can anyone name a SINGLE case of someone being charged with perjury for lying on a citizenship question? This is the crux of the entire illegal alien voting scheme. Most States will give you a licence and motor voter registration, simply check the box. Now how does anyone go back and check to see if you voted illegally or not? It’s all but impossible.


28 posted on 11/11/2017 12:28:49 PM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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