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Former Cy Young Award-winning pitcher Roy Halladay, 40, is killed crashing his plane
Daily Mail ^ | 11-07-2017 | James Wilkinson

Posted on 11/07/2017 1:44:55 PM PST by ZagFan

Former MLB pitcher Roy 'Doc' Halladay has been killed after his plane crashed in the Gulf of Mexico.

Halladay, 40, was a keen pilot whose Twitter feed includes several references to his love of flying - including his brand new ICON MY2018 A5 plane, which was seen floating upside down in shallow water on Tuesday.

But Halladay will be best known for playing for the Toronto Blue Jays and Philadelphia Phillies from 1998-2013, and for being one of just six MLB pitchers to win the Cy Young award for both American and International play.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: grobdriver

Denver was killed in a Long EZ, a Burt Rutan design, trying to change fuel tanks with a pair of pliers while on final.”””

IIRC, Denver was test flying a plane he wished to purchase from the owner. The owner of the plane was quite a bit taller that Denver & Denver moved the seat up for his comfort.

When he tried to reach the switch to get on the reserve fuel tanks, he could NOT reach it-—because the owner was so much taller.

I NEVER understood why Denver didn’t top off the fuel tanks before he took the flight in the first place.

However, I sure miss his music.


21 posted on 11/07/2017 3:19:02 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: TBP

R.I.P.

Odd title reminded me of the Syracuse.com stories.


22 posted on 11/07/2017 3:25:51 PM PST by exPBRrat (.)
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To: rarestia

Sounds like it was more mechanical failure than pilot error, maybe the wiring.


23 posted on 11/07/2017 3:34:46 PM PST by Crucial
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To: ZagFan

That sucks. He was a big favorite of Blue Jay fans.


24 posted on 11/07/2017 3:43:51 PM PST by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: ZagFan
Very sad news indeed. One thing that strikes me here, this appears to be a plane on the cutting edge of technology, a folding wing amphibian.

It is a truism that the more things that can be done, the more modes of failure lurk.

25 posted on 11/07/2017 3:45:25 PM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: ZagFan
Roy, his wife and the plane
26 posted on 11/07/2017 3:52:57 PM PST by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: SES1066

Cutting edge or not, two things stand out to me here. One, many light sport aircraft have speed and G limits that the pilot has to be mindful of. And pilots of light sport aircraft often are on the lesser end of experience, since one can get a ‘sport’ license with less time and training than a full ‘private’ license. Second, any flight over water can become disorienting very quickly depending on lighting, altitude, visibility, and again, pilot experience. I have no idea if any of these were factors in the accident.


27 posted on 11/07/2017 3:55:36 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

There are go2pro videos of him skimming the water and being thrilled to death. How about strong gusts hit the airplane from behind and force the nose to dig into the water, flipping it and killing him?


28 posted on 11/07/2017 4:34:27 PM PST by dennisw (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it is enemy action.)
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To: montag813

It’s a British paper. They know less about baseball than I do about cricket.


29 posted on 11/07/2017 4:42:16 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: dennisw

If he accidently ditched it while trying to impress himself with low level flight, then very likely he could have snapped his neck in the sudden stop. Has happened to other pilots who had to ditch for other reasons, even when they knew it was coming.


30 posted on 11/07/2017 4:56:56 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: grobdriver
The EZ that Denver rode in had an odd fuel valve configuration. The valve is supposed to be reachable while seated normally, but the previous owner didn’t configure it that way.

The EZ has a small primer tank because your start it with the nose resting on the ground. After extending the nose wheel you are supposed to switch the tank. It is a common mistake to forget to switch to the main tank. A friend of mine tried it, once. He was able to switch tanks and keep the engine running.

31 posted on 11/07/2017 5:37:32 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: fella

The plane found upside down. The water is pretty shallow there.


32 posted on 11/07/2017 7:42:54 PM PST by lilypad
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To: dennisw

It was rather light winds here this morning when he crashed and a low tide and shallow water.Neighbors here reported seeing him flying low the last few days.


33 posted on 11/07/2017 7:45:13 PM PST by lilypad
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To: dennisw

It was rather light winds here this morning when he crashed and a low tide and shallow water.Neighbors here reported seeing him flying low the last few days.


34 posted on 11/07/2017 7:45:15 PM PST by lilypad
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To: lilypad

How ever it happened he was skimming the water too often and somehow the airplane nosed into it and flipped. My theory.


35 posted on 11/08/2017 3:21:24 AM PST by dennisw (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it is enemy action.)
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To: kanawa

Great find. Don’t guess Icon will be using the video. The only point of interest for me was why her hair was blowing so much during one portion of the flight. Also didn’t know the A5 was a light sport aircraft until now.


36 posted on 11/08/2017 4:10:24 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: SES1066

I wouldn’t try to land that thing on anybody of water that had even small wave action going.

I have been on De Havilland seaplanes taking off and landing in the Keys and you need a strong airframe to handle the stress.

That thing looks very unforgiving.


37 posted on 11/08/2017 4:21:12 AM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: dennisw

I would agree with your theory.I think he got a real thrill out of low level flying not realizing the dangers. Old axim: There are old pilots and bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots.


38 posted on 11/08/2017 4:24:56 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: Rome2000

Water LOOKS soft and the inexperienced can lack the appreciation of how hard it gets with velocity. Hitting the wave without the respect it needs will make it a bad day for anyone. Still, it could have been something entirely different than pilot error or inexperience, it is just too early to know!

I just know that even the best training on a new aircraft will not be the same as for an aircraft with lots of experience from lots of pilots. Add a *new* aircraft that is an amphibian, one that straddles two worlds, and ‘designed’ for the minimally trained market, and I’d approach every flight with very healthy RESPECT!!

Recall all of the problems and crashes with the V-22 Osprey and you know that the crews were TRAINED but it needed TIME to learn how wonky transitions could be. Lots of too young lives were spent there and that was for a real and vital military need!


39 posted on 11/08/2017 5:46:38 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: shoff

“I keep telling my dad flying the ICON A5 low over the water is like flying a fighter jet!”
https://sports.yahoo.com/plane-roy-halladay-flying-jet-ski-wings-234327786.html

This is what struck me when reading a few days ago. He had all of Tampa Bay right outside his house so a good percentage of his flights were over water and *unfortunately* flying close to the water for the thrills. And too much skimming is what did him in. RIP. And just my take on it.

His father was a commercial pilot and maybe he was trying to impress him. Subconsciously.


40 posted on 11/08/2017 7:56:02 AM PST by dennisw (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it is enemy action.)
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