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Sutherland Springs Church Killer Was Kicked Out of Air Force for ‘Bad Conduct’
daily beast ^ | nov 5, 2017 | kelly weill

Posted on 11/05/2017 6:48:37 PM PST by bitt

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To: JohnBrowdie

obviously, worse than bergdahl


41 posted on 11/05/2017 7:49:06 PM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: KavMan; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; piasa; LucyT
The link mentions Kelley's affiliation with Unite Against Fascism, which has some significant connections:

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In 2006, David Tate argued that the Socialist Workers Party was seeking to dominate the UAF.[46] The same criticism has been made of UAF's successor body Stand Up To Racism.[47]

David Toube claims that the organisations involved in the UAF avoid condemnation of antisemitism.[48] The LGBT rights activist Peter Tatchell has accused UAF of a selective approach to bigotry: "UAF commendably opposes the BNP and EDL but it is silent about Islamist fascists who promote anti-Semitism, homophobia, sexism and sectarian attacks on non-extremist Muslims. It is time the UAF campaigned against the Islamist far right as well as against the EDL and BNP far right."[33]

The journalist Andrew Gilligan has claimed that the UAF's reluctance to tackle Islamism is that several of its own members are supporters of such extremism. The UAF's vice-chairman, Azad Ali, has links to al-Qaeda and is also community affairs coordinator of the Islamic Forum of Europe, which Gilligan describes as "a Muslim supremacist group dedicated to changing 'the very infrastructure of society, its institutions, its culture, its political order and its creed from ignorance to Islam'".[33] According to Gilligan, Michael Adebolajo, one of the murderers of Lee Rigby in 2013, spoke "on the margins" of a 2009 UAF demonstration in Harrow.[33] Secretary Weyman Bennett responded by saying that Adebolajo was not an official speaker.[33]

42 posted on 11/05/2017 7:51:05 PM PST by Fedora
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To: bitt
‪After he was court-martialed Kelley received a Bad Conduct Discharge and confinement for 12 months according to Air Force spokesperson.‬
43 posted on 11/05/2017 7:54:17 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: MileHi

As well as that white, race hating broad holding the sign?


44 posted on 11/05/2017 7:55:30 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority)
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To: Fedora

“UAF” could also mean “unaffiliated”, though—see #38.


45 posted on 11/05/2017 7:55:49 PM PST by Fedora
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To: bitt

Info on alleged shooter’s wife...not sure if this is fake news or not....

https://everipedia.org/wiki/danielle-lee-shields/


46 posted on 11/05/2017 7:55:56 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: CaptainK

Desertion is looked upon favorably by some nowadays but I’m old enough to remember when (getting caught) smoking a joint could get you an Other Than Honorable DD214 - and I am not kidding.


47 posted on 11/05/2017 8:00:08 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority)
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To: Jane Long

I wonder if his wife was in the church.


48 posted on 11/05/2017 8:05:12 PM PST by CaptainK (No collusion.No obstruction.He's a leaker.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

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There’s no way he got that rifle legally.
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49 posted on 11/05/2017 8:08:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CaptainK

Twitter rumors saying she was in the church. Time will tell. If I find confirming link, I’ll post.


50 posted on 11/05/2017 8:08:24 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: PghBaldy

As far as I know UAF is unaffiliated voter at least in some states in the United States.

In the U.K. there is a UAF party which does stand for Unite Against Fascism. Unless that party is taking root here then that person on YouTube is not correct.


51 posted on 11/05/2017 8:14:10 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: TexasGator

My worthless brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money) was up for a BCD, but his dad, a disabled vet, and a state congressman managed to get him discharged with a “Medical” discharge.

He has been sucking that VA government tit ever since.


52 posted on 11/05/2017 8:16:39 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Jane Long

ping me if she was in the church! that would be so sad...


53 posted on 11/05/2017 8:34:22 PM PST by bitt (press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally)
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To: Jane Long

FOX just reported that authorities are saying the shooter had no relationship with the church.
I don’t know if that precludes him having a relationship with a parishioner.


54 posted on 11/05/2017 8:35:55 PM PST by CaptainK (No collusion.No obstruction.He's a leaker.)
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To: atc23
As well as that white, race hating broad holding the sign?

Maybe. But the armed masked scum need .223 sphincters in their foreheads.

55 posted on 11/05/2017 8:35:55 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: CaptainK

Rep Henry Cuellar, who reps Sutherland Springs, is on Fox saying there would seem to be a possible connection to the church, but ‘we must leave that to the authorities’.


56 posted on 11/05/2017 8:39:44 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: CaptainK

could be he was an out and out psycho- however- i too have a gut feeling that either his wife, or mother-in-law was part of that church, and he felt the church and wife, or mother-in-law, or all three, were conspiring against him- Sounds like he might have really hated Christians- just a gut feeling at this point


57 posted on 11/05/2017 8:41:58 PM PST by Bob434
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Bad conduct disharge (aka the Big Chicken Dinner) is equivalent of a felony if my memory serves me well.

There are two kinds of bad conduct discharges. One from a summery court martial and one from a general court martial. The summery court bad conduct discharge is a mister meaner and the general is a felony.
58 posted on 11/05/2017 8:45:56 PM PST by JoSixChip (Repeal and replace the gopE.)
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To: TexasGator

“That is a Dishonorable Discharge.”

Are you sure?

If that’s the case, than it would have been illegal for him to have purchased or to be in possession of firearms. If in fact it was a ‘Dishonorable Discharge?

I do not believe a ‘Bad Conduct’ discharge disallows weapons ownership.


59 posted on 11/05/2017 8:48:03 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: KavMan

The most interesting find in that video report, is that Devin Kelley listed his political party affiliation as “UAF” on his voter registration.

Apparently, UAF stands for United Against Fascism.....ergo, Antifa.


60 posted on 11/05/2017 8:53:24 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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