CIA urges POTUS Trump to delay release of.....documents on assassination of John F. KennedyThank

The Doran ^ | October 17, 2017, | Alex Christoforou

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

CIA urges POTUS Trump to delay release of 3,000 never-before-seen documents on assassination of John F. Kennedy Experts fear the release of secret JFK assassination documents.

The CIA is urging President Donald Trump to delay disclosing some of the files for another 25 years according to friend and political adviser Roger Stone but the National Archives would not say whether any agencies have appealed the release of the documents.

According to The Gateway Pundit, Roger Stone and Gerald Posner, two New York Times bestselling authors who are polar opposites about who killed JFK, have joined together to urge Donald Trump to release all the remaining classified files on Kennedy’s assassination.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Okay I’ll yive you credit for that!

[Beautiful_Gracious_Skies]

“And don’t even get me started on Ted Cruz’s dad, who was photographed with Jack Ruby in Dallas.”

Actually, Cruz was filmed by with LHO handing out pro-Castro pamphlets in New Orleans a few months before Kennedy died.

Conveniently filmed, it was so obvious that the groundwork was being set to document LHO, their patsy.

[Yaelle]

Post 10 nails it. They are protecting the nasty white ex president telling us all yesterday that we are making the country racist. Yeah, the a hole we thought was a good guy and re-elected him to the Presidency twice. And his evil POTUS dad. And his idiot low energy candidate brother.

[Yaelle]

Agree. This is to protect the family who would like to think they are patriotic Americans, but their sneaky Poppy put away 2.5 presidents.

However, I don’t know of Ted Cruz’s dad being with Jack Ruby. He was photographed with Oswald passing out flyers in Dallas though.

[Beautiful_Gracious_Skies]

A quote from 2016 JFK forum...

“November [2016] saw the publication of two breakthrough books on the assassination of JFK:

Larry Hancock’s -”Someone Would Have Talked”

Fabian Escalante’s - “JFK: The Cuba Files,
the Untold Story of the Plot to Kill Kennedy”...

...It is an interesting story, but much of it will not surprise members of this forum, as it
provides evidence that JFK was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy, organized by
the CIA and involving anti-Castro militants, in order to initiate an invasion of Cuba.

The names of the shooters are irrelevant. For those Parlor Gamers out there contemplating
all the “false mystery” of the JFK case — stick a fork in it.
This case is cracked.

The idea that LBJ and Hoover covered this up because they feared if the real assassins were discovered, it would lead to WWIII is absurb for anyone who knows anything about politics or foreign policy in the 1960s. LBJ and Hoover knew that the case against Castro would never stand up under any proper investigation. What would be revealed was that someone was trying to set up Castro?

As Escalante points out in his book, only the CIA had the ability to do this. Only LBJ and the FBI had the means to cover this fact up. This is the issue that the House Select Committee on Assassinations refused to look into.”

[T-Bone Texan]

Thank you for that correction.

Do you think they were comrades or fellow travelers?

[no-to-illegals]

Also the picture of HW .... Wonder if it was him??? was never checked or if was checked and was covered up ???

[Beautiful_Gracious_Skies]

The Communist assassin angle? That withers once when we learn they were laying the groundwork as part of a pre-assassination team. The completeness of the pre-assassination CIA records on Oswald are highly suspect since ‘evidence’ has been proven false due to modern forensics. This boomerangs the motive back to those that planted the false evidence,

It was likely the same coalition of Cuban exiles, mob members, and CIA officers who had conspired to eliminate Fidel Castro. Many of the circumstantial leads, and indeed confessions of guilt, still stem from that direction.

As with our recent massacre in Las Vegas, the authorities were instantly proclaiming the lone gunman’s guilty from the outset, purposefully ignoring inquiries into any other possibilities. Again, the public and even the media have begun to question the timelines, evidence and earnest attempt at a solid investigation.

For JFK, the evidence of a conspiracy remains circumstantial and problematic since many people and groups had a strong motive to kill him. Plus there is the added dilemma of separating acts of the coverup from the actual conspiracy to assassinate.

[otness_e]

Yeah, I doubt that the Deep State would have involvement in the JFK assassination. Use common sense: JFK supported the Deep State considering he was a huge UN supporter, citing the organization was the only alternative to war. The UN is the entire essence of the Deep State, the whole “New World Order”, the whole “Global Government” types. If anything, the Deep State would want JFK alive to further their plans.

And as far as the other claims:

Considering there’s a whole lot of evidence pointing towards LHO trying to flee to Cuba and the USSR, and that he was found with a historic diary with British terms, it’s pretty obvious he didn’t act alone.

And on that note, there’s a whole lot of evidence to suggest the Cubans and the USSR were involved in his actions, at least to some capacity. Heck, the USSR actually started a disinformation campaign to essentially claim right-wingers, CIA agents, and even LBJ were responsible for the hit, a pretty big one, arguably as big at the time as the whole Katyn Forest Massacre thing, which only got confirmed to be USSR’s fault after the KGB archives were opened up.

As far as the other suspects:

Mafia: I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be stupid enough to try and orchestrate a hit on JFK during a parade, especially not when they’ve got the likelihood of America falling as a result. If I were the mob, I’d be smart enough to realize that I wouldn’t try to kill JFK at that moment due to him, being the president, ultimately being America’s best shot against the USSR and Cuba. Now, after he’s out of office, I’d probably kill him as revenge for double crossing me in a way that looked like an accident.

LBJ: Plenty of problems with that idea: First of all, he didn’t even seem to learn of LHO’s involvement of the assassination until the CIA told him three days later. If he orchestrated the hit, he’d know long before then. Plus, the whole presidential succession thing for presidents who died in office was only made an amendment to the constitution AFTER the JFK assassination, so LBJ would literally not have that easy of a method of gaining office (plus, technically, if he really desired the office, he wouldn’t even NEED to kill him. All he needs to do is leak to the press sordid details of JFK that were unbecoming of him, maybe also blackmail them into revealing it by revealing any skeletons in the media’s closet, then a whole media circus later, JFK would either resign or be thrown out, and LBJ would be president). The only thing that he MIGHT be involved with regarding the JFK assassination was the coverup, and even THAT was more likely to be due to the fact that if it came to light that the USSR and/or Cuba had assassinated a sitting president, we’d enter World War III, and probably launch nukes as well, and that would have been a disastrous result in itself. Now, don’t get me wrong, LBJ is definitely a scoundrel who shouldn’t have been allowed into office, he grossly mismanaged Vietnam, he may have even killed his sister for all I care, and I certainly hold him in a lot of contempt, but he’s unlikely to be the guy who offed JFK.

CIA: Pretty much the only reason the CIA is considered a suspect is because of Operation Dragon, which was a Soviet disinformation campaign created specifically to avoid allowing any blame for the USSR. I’m pretty sure the CIA wouldn’t dare kill a sitting president, ESPECIALLY not in that manner. And believe me, if the CIA were going to kill presidents they didn’t like, they would have done it multiple times by now.

GHWB: GHWB was barely even involved in the political sphere at the time. Not to mention there’s very little motive for him to kill JFK (heck, being a Deep State person himself, he’s more likely to SPARE JFK due to his UN love than kill him).

Right-wingers: Seriously? Do you REALLY need me to explain how that wouldn’t even WORK as a suspect?

As far as the CIA’s trying to delay the release of the documents, correct me if I’m mistaken, but isn’t the current CIA Director a card-carrying Communist, or at least proudly voted Communist in a Presidential Election? If there’s intel making clear that Cuba and/or the USSR were involved in the hit, that would have been enough reason for the Commie CIA Director right now to be quaking in his boots since that would have been even MORE proof that his dear Communism is truly the devil’s work for the masses to learn.

[politicianslie]

“Back and to the left...”

Do you shoot?

I shoot...alot...

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I think your comment about shooting alot means that your observations of the behavior of various targets that YOU shoot is NOT consistent with what you have been told by the presstitues and the US gov't. There are good, sound reasons for that.

The gubermint and their lone nut proponents hang their hats on MOMENTUM and the "fact" that a bullet does NOT transfer very much momentum to a target and hence a target shot will not necessarily have a reaction in the same direction as the projectile was traveling. Hence, it is reasonable that JFK's head could go BACK AND TO THE LEFT when the shot allegedly came from the rear.

HERE IS WHY THAT IS WRONG!

A bullet that does NOT hit bone does NOT require very much energy to go through a body BUT a bullet that blows out bone does require energy to blow it out.

Examples in the JFK assassination that required a significant amount of energy to exit the body:

1. JFK's head shot blew out large amounts of bone

2. Connally's shot to his back blew out about 10 cm of one rib and then hit his wrist bone.

A wound that did NOT transfer much energy as it did NOT hit any bone

The shot to JFK's neck

A bullet's kinetic energy is given by KE = 1/2 * MASS * (velocity squred

A bullet's MOMENTUM = MASS * VELOCITY

Because a bullet must transfer energy to the traget to destroy bone, that means it MUST slow down because the energy comes from the moving energy (KINETIC ENERGY) of the bullet.

Because the bullet slows down it means momentum is transferred to the target WHICH MEANS the target (either Connally or Kennedy) MOVES in the same direction as the shot was fired.

In Connally's case, he ALWAYS said "the force of the blow (to my back) bent me over. Listen to Connally say that during his Warren Comm. testimony:

VIDEO JOHN CONNALLY during the WARREN COMM HEARINGS tells us the force to his BACK bent him over

The next question to answer is WHEN IS CONNALLY BENT OVER?

These two frames from the Zapruder film, Connally's head has gone from mostly vertical to down. The first is frame 324 the second is frame 327. I drew lines through the back of Connally's head because the blurr of Zapruder's film is so bad it hides one of the quickest movements in the entire Zapruder film. WHY doesn't Bugliosi in RECLAIMING HISTORY address Connally's rapid head movement which begins a split second AFTER JFK's head shot? The simple answer is the gubermint told him it was due to Nellie pulling him into her lap. Looking at the two frames shows that Nellie could NOT have slammed Connally's head forward, there has to be another reason. Remember, John Connally said the "force of the blow to my back bent me over." That is exactly what you see.

Simarily, JFK's head and upper body are driven back and to the left definitely from a shot that was fired from the right front of President Kennedy. You can say definitely because it took energy from the kinetic energy of the bullet which means momentum of the bullet was transferred to JFK's head and upper body.

It's so easy to lie to Americans because most will believe almost anything the presstitutes tell them to believe.

And this GIF shows that there is credible proof that the last TWO shots were fired 0.7 seconds apart (BANG-BANG)

Shot #4 from the right front

Shot #5 (which missed JFK's head) hit Connally in the back which bent him over.

If you watch a slow motion of the entire Z film during the shooting, it should now make more sense what you are seeing. Note the fact John Connally is NOT bent over until a split second AFTER JFK is shot in the head.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Release them anyway. The intelligence agencies have shown in the recent past that they’re no friend of Trump.

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

Some factual background easily negates your objections......

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15167

[otness_e]

And again, 1., why would LBJ be unaware of LHO’s involvement until being debriefed three days later on the assassination by the CIA? and 2., if the Deep State hated him, why is it that JFK practically promoted their worldview regarding the UN? You still haven’t addressed those two glaring questions.

And for the record, I dislike both with a passion.

[Vendome]

Didn’t read the whole post but, Zactly.

I have put animals down for slaughter and others for humane reasons.

Their freakin heads traveled with the bullet.

You are correct in that hurting flesh alone there really is nothing more than a simple piercing.

Hitting rock hard bone invokes the “Equal and Opposite Reaction”and that temporary resistance provides the connection to force meets mass...

Now I will read the rest of your post...

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

Maybe you need to rea-think your position as to what you label nonsense & ‘WHO DONE IT’ ......LBJ’s girl friend already done spilled the beans a long time ago.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15167

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

Please inform this forum as to what relevance your comment has to the topic of the DEEP STATE’s involvement in the murder of JFK & the coup d’etat which has followed the actions of that conspiracy?

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15167

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

LBJ & J Edgar Hoover were at the final planning meeting the night before the JFK murder.....

Watch the linked interview of Madeleine Duncan Brown, she spilled the beans long ago.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15167

Also, read ‘Me & Lee’ by Judyth Vary Baker, Oswald’s lover & CIA team member for actual background information concerning many of the players.....

[SoCal Pubbie]

There was no deep stste involvement in the assassination of JFK so anything I posted was addressed to that fact.

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

“There was no deep state involvement in the assassination of JFK ”......

Tell a big enough lie long enough and most people will believe it.....

.....Particularly if the daily talking points of CBS, NBC & ABC were dictated directly from Langley, VA for decades.

[SoCal Pubbie]

My understanding of the assassination bones not from the alphabet soup networks nor the country’s major newspapers. It comes from reading books by the likes of Mark Lane, Dave Lifton, and other conspiracy hounds, plus all the various TV documentaries like The Men Who Killer Kennedy. After reading Best Evidence in the early 1980s I was convinced there must have been a conspiracy.

But still something bothered me. Why so many different theories? Why did conspiracy books always hopscotch over evidence and chase down dead ends and obscure side alleys? Finally I read Case Closed. I looked at the reality, not lies that have been so often repeated. I finally realized that the truth was out there. Oswald acted alone.