Posted on 10/11/2017 6:19:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right
A man dressed as a shark has been arrested under Austria's burka ban laws while working as a mascot outside a shop.
The employee was standing outside McShark in a shark suit to advertise the new electronics store in Vienna.
Police officers demanded he removed his shark head and when he refused, protesting he was 'just doing his job', they arrested him and slapped him with a fine.
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There needs to be an intent to hide identity while going about is public aspect.
Is this real?
Ronald mc Donald, The Liberty Tax guy, brides with a veil. All in jail, but muzzies no?
. the Land Shark is considered the cleverest of all sharks. Unlike the Great White shark, which tends to inhabit the waters and harbors of recreational beach areas, the Land Shark may strike at any place, any time. It is capable of disguising its voice, and generally preys on young, single women.
> Is this real? <
Evidently. The story is being carried on a number of sites.
They’re jumping the shark.
On the other hand, the three ladies below look so happy, so free, and so Westernized. Why bother them?
Sounds clever like the high-IQ water-based shark that yells “Bear!” to unsuspecting tanners at the beach.
At issue is, does a citizen have the right to conceal their identity? Some sub questions are:
- concealment in public spaces
- concealment in private spaces
- concealment before the law
- concealment electronically
In the US, these should be coded under 4th Amendment.
To wit, “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation ....”
I am of the opinion that identity is tied to persons and effects. As such, I am of opinion that a person has the right to conceal their identity in public, private, and electronically, but not before the law.
.....Candygram....
“Candygram”
Candygram, my foot! You get out of here before I call the police! You’re the shark, and you know it!
Wait. I-I’m only a dolphin, ma’am.
I had forgotten this. LOL.
He’s just trying to pick up chicks.
“Every girl’s crazy ‘bout a shark dressed man.”
As an example, should it be legal for a man to stand across from a synagogue wearing a Hitler mask? Most Austrians would so no. Must Americans... I dunno.
Another thing to consider. Austria is banning the burka not because of concealment. It's the "harmful to society" thing. I suppose if an Austrian Muslim walked around with a "Slay Those Who Insult Islam" sign, Austria might ban that too.
Should such a sign be banned in America?
The British have no problem with that sign. London:
Thanks! Forgot how it played out........
Can’t be partial, don’t you know. Does Australia celebrate holloween?
In the broader debate about state vs citizens rights, the state will always continue to push it’s rights over that of the citizen leading to a police state. The only impediment to this natural progression is the insistence of the People on the rights of the People.
I am of the libertarian mindset and favor the rights of the People over the rights of the state, with limited exceptions to allow the state to maintain order. That is why I believe that the right to privacy is not valid when the condition exists between the person and the law.
With that, I am asserting that from the casual police encounter (stop and talk) that the police can demand that the person identify themselves and that in order to confirm identity, that any mask be removed. That proof of person then extends all the way through the legal system up to and including incarceration.
Now outside the legal encounter, can a citizen be arrested when the only cause is wearing a mask in public. I favor the right of the citizen to wear a mask. There are a number of hypothetical that can be constructed around this but I will focus on two; Halloween and Medical
In the Halloween case, a citizen is in public celebrating an event or a holiday and decides to wear a mask (costume). There is no other activity, legal or otherwise that provokes suspicion. I do not see this as cause for arrest or even a stop to confirm identity.
The second case, medical, is a bit more related to the public good. In the case of a flu outbreak, it may be adventitious for a person to were a medical mask to reduce the chances of becoming infected or infecting others. Again, if no other suspicion exists, there should be no basis for a legal stop.
Now lets look at the case of wearing a Burka. The simple wearing of an article of clothing is not a danger to one’s self or poses a threat to others. As such, I believe that burkas should NOT be banned any more than banning an Iron Man costume.
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