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Posted on 10/04/2017 11:38:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker
The A11 Bionic moniker may admittedly be nothing more than a marketing gimmick, but Apple’s next-gen processor is nothing short of a monster. In the days leading up to and following Apple’s iPhone media event, the iPhone 8 Geekbench 4 scores from Primate Labs’ Geekbench test were truly jarring. So while iOS and Android have arguably come close to reaching feature-parity in recent years, the overall system performance provided by Apple’s custom-designed A-x processors continues to leave Android handsets in the dust.
In fact, with Apple’s new flagship iPhone models running more than 50% faster than top of the line Android handsets in some tests, Primate Labs founder John Poole can’t help but wonder why we’re only seeing huge performance improvements emanating from Apple.
“The thing that I don’t fully understand is why performance has seemed to stagnate on the Android side,” Poole said in an interview with Tom’s Guide. “Where you don’t see these big leaps forward. I don’t understand what’s happening there.”
“At this point, you’ve got desktop-class performance in a handset. There’s no way of looking at it any other way,” Poole later added. “I wouldn’t have thought to use my first-generation iPhone to edit video. I would’ve thought you were crazy.”
Even though most iPhone users may not necessarily need to take advantage of all the processing power afforded by Apple’s next-gen processor, the larger point is that Apple is better positioned than its Android counterparts for the future of mobile computing.
Indeed, Apple’s decision to bring chip development in house has turned out to be one of Steve Jobs’ shrewdest decisions. As Apple chip guru Johnny Srouji said earlier this month, “This is something we started 10 years ago, designing our own silicon, because that’s the best way to truly customize something that’s uniquely optimized for Apple hardware and software.”
All these "free apps" that we are downloading so that we can more easily pay for things and get things done (such as board aircraft or hail a cab) are not being designed for us by companies out of the goodness of their hearts.
It's not so much about making OUR lives easier but it's more about allowing corporations like banks, airlines, retail stores, etc., reducing THEIR costs and overhead.
Not that it's a bad thing and I try to early adopt on as many of these apps as I can. It is already so much easier to buy tickets and have them in your wallet ahead of time so you don't have to stand in line like some schmuck at the event. I can pretty much book a flight, rent a car, book a hotel and board an aircraft with near zero human intervention.
Like it or not, that world is coming for all of us and for those who like to crow about clinging to their "flip phone" - well they are being dragged along eventually, whether they like it or not. Or they will be getting socked with fees and other charges left and right.
I've got a bag full of useless remote controls at home. Everything is now controlled by apps on the phone. That will soon go for opening your garage door, controlling your thermostat and seeing who is ringing your doorbell while you are at work.
#4 Soon to be made by cheeseheads in Wisconsin.
A company in Minnesota is rumored to be making the suicide nets for the new Foxconn plant.... : )
True, but if you want to pull the phone apart and write your own O/S for it and install in in a spaceship, you can operate more spaceship systems/modules with this latest phone processor.
That's quite important to many, I'm sure.
I was focused on the counter, didn’t mean to trigger you
I don’t know, I don’t have mine yet
Good questions
Indeed. Where I come from, it's a common task for children.
All that being said, dila813, geek bench testing is completely different than the YouTube tests we frequently see which is about the speed of opening apps. . . and that is often impacted by the speed of manipulating memory and the number of pixels a specific device has to move around on a screen. There the Android devices are particularly crippled by the low-cost choices their makers have made, often times for hyperbole advertising reasons that have no real world benefits.
First of all, the choice to use removable memory for storage is always slower than built in SSD type Flash storage which Apple uses. Apple also uses the highest quality, fastest Flash storage available for their memory. As a rule, this type of storage is already five to six times faster than the less expensive, mass manufactured, slower removable storage that Android devices opt to use.
Even when the Android makers use on board Flash RAM, they generally opt for the least expensive—i.e., slower FlashRAM for their storage—that they can buy. This is usually half the speed of the storage Apple uses. Often, even though it may not be "removable," it still occupies the same addressable locations as the removable cards would have and is treated the same and is used purely as storage.
In iOS, such memory is usable for both apps and data and iOS does not distinguish between data content storage and executable app storage as it is all available for either use. It is all on the bus and equally accessible to the processor. There is no separation between data and app storage. The entire memory map is available for either.
Then there is the hype surrounding excess on screen pixels. The average 20/20 human eye can only discern a dot slightly smaller than 1º arc second of resolution at any given distance. For example, a 50" 1080P HD TV at the normal viewing distance of about 12 feet uses a Pixels Per Inch (PPI) of only 30. That same image, projected on to a movie screen at the local Cinema, uses a PPI of 1! At the normal viewing one uses a cellular phone, this 1º arc second translates to ~196 PPI. Some very well sighted people, about 15% of the population, have 20/15 eyesight and can discern up to ~232 PPI. . . and 3% of the population have 20/10 and can down to ~265 PPI.
Anything above that is pure advertising hype in screen resolution for a phone and moving those excess pixels around is a waste of time, memory usage, processing resources, and battery energy for no discernible visible. It does have an impact on app loading time and app processing time especially in games and frame rates. All else being equal, it's an obvious hit on the Androids that have huge, unnecessary PPI screens.
Apple recently increased its PPI because you can now do realtime video editing of 4K video on the screen of an iPhone 8 and 8 Plus as well as the iPhone X, and to do that you need onscreen controls not obscuring the video images. Hence, they wanted to display the full screen AND the control panel at the same time. They have a reason for the higher PPI, but they still only are doing a representation of the 4K, not the full 4K as some mis-guided Android phone makers are attempting. Unless those makers are providing a microscope to view the images, there is no purpose or advantage to a 4K screen on a phone except hype for ignorant buyers so they can brag their phone has a 4K screen and yours doesn't.
All of this impacts those YouTube app startup head-to-head shootout tests. . . but those are not GeekBenchMark tests.
I can't tell you from personal experience yet. I'm waiting to order the iPhone X. . . but the users of the iPhone 8 once they force restarted the device to reset the memory, are reporting battery life the same or exceeding the iPhone 7 and no heat problems. I'll let you know when I get my X.
You forgot the part about the sled puppies, at the end of their run are left outside to freeze into pre-frozen food for the babies to eat. Very convenient. Since they are hot from their run, they are frozen hotdogs. Of course, no buns or condiments are necessary. Just the frozen hotdogs. The rounded up puppies take their erstwhile frozen hotdog predecessors back to the factories before they make their delivery run of finished Apple products completing the cycle. Very Apple efficient designed by Time Cook (that's where he got his name, he did drop the "e" to make it look more normal."
I had a 5 for four years. Slow but adequate from the start. Past six months very slow. Even FR would sometimes take as much as a minute usually took at least thirty seconds or so
Now loads in one to two seconds. Pictures and video load fast and play without buffering
So far, out of millions of iPhone 8 plus units shipped, TWO have come unglued. How many times are you going to beat this drum?
Totally unnecessary, Minnesota. because they are not going to be making any Microsoft Xboxes, Nokia Cellular Phones, Sony PlayStations, or HP computers. . . which is what were being assembled at the FoxConn plant where they erected the anti-suicide netting in China. . . not at a plant making Apple products. You keep posting this canard, but it simply does not apply to Apple. The closest plant that was making anything related to Apple was over 250 miles away and not a single Apple assembly line worker was among the 18 workers who committed suicide in the 18 month period from FoxConn's 750,000 workers spread over 29 factories.
All the hardware in the world can’t help android overcome its biggest problem.... its android. The UI/UX will always be second fiddle, and no amount of hardware/spec sheet can or ever will change that.
50% faster isn’t leaving it in the dust? So when a car passes you doing 75 while you are doing 50, you aren’t getting left in his dust???
That’s some insane spin you got there
Focusing on the processor, one topic at a time
I should have expected you to counter with an ad hominem response. It's your schtick in response to factual information provided in a reasonable manner. I again ask you, is this what you taught your six children?
... and if I was going 74.9 MPH I would eventually be left in the dust as well.
If only Android could do 74.9 to Apple’s 75, then this wouldn’t be so embarrassing... but fact is at 50% slower, that’s nearly 1/2 of a Moore’s law cycle......
The problem with android, is quite simply, its android. All the hardware in the world, can’t fix that. It will never be as performant, or as intuitive as iOS. You can’t fix the compromised android has to make at the OS level to support generic and open hardware possibilities with more CPU/GPU cycles.. and that’s not even getting into the UI/UX hell that is android.
Android has come a long way, but it will always be second fiddle to IOS, all the processing power in the world can’t overcome the fundamental issues at the OS level it has.
Just looked at the Youtube Geekbench performance.
Wow the iPhone 8 Plus smokes the Samsung 8. It’s not even close.
The video I watched had another Geek bench software where it smoked Samsung 8 too.
Yes in terms of performance the iPhone 8 Plus is the best phone on the market. The iPhone 8 was very close too.
Probably the best bet between the iPhone 8 and the iPhone X since the cost is less. Although with the iPhone X you get the bigger screen and the face lock.
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