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Las Vegas shooter: Most likely motive at this point (Vanity)
10-03-2017

Posted on 10/03/2017 1:27:25 AM PDT by Az Joe

I have no special knowledge, just have been observing this event from different angles and points of view as all of you have. Listened to Scott Adams analysis quite a bit. Much is unknown and I am only about 70-75% sure about this.


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At this point, barring contradictory evidence appearing, the most likely motive behind the attack is: Anti-Trump, fundamentalist, Leftist psychosis, inspired not by ISIS or The Jihad but by CNN. MSNBC, ANTIFA and other virulent anti-Trump, Leftist, activists/agents.

Why?

1 - His target. A country concert filled with mostly White, Conservative, Trump supporters. (God Bless America was sung less than an hour before the attack at the venue. That only happens at Conservative events). 

2 - If he had had ANY political agenda, opinions, thoughts, etc that were not Leftist wingnut, we would have certainly heard about it before now and the media would be busy trying to tie him to Trump in some way. As of now, we are getting absolutely nothing in regards to his political views. Almost impossible to find a person with no political views of some kind in this nation right now.

3 - The bizarre interviews his bizarre brother has been giving. Anyone who watches and studies them comes away with the feeling that something is off about him and what he is saying about his brother. He is hiding something.

4 - His "friend/girlfriend/whatever" is the ex-wife of an virulent, anti-Trump, Maddow loving, Leftist wingnut. Unlikely she would go from that to anything to the Right of that, even a to a moderate.

5 - Because the media/Dems are pretending there is no "political" motive to be seen they can run with their anti-gun agenda without interference or distraction by ancillary (to them) issues.

I believe it may just be found that the most likely motive is the hatred inspired by CNN/MSNBC/ANTIFA and Liberals such as those on DU as an example. 

To Conservatives: Watch your backs and if you haven't already, arm up in public and at large gatherings. ANTIFA types are filled with delusional, gonna-save-the-world-from-Trump, Leftist, Marxists and radicals who are far, FAR outside any acceptable, normal behavior or values of normal political life. These folks burn with a hatred of Trump and HATRED, intense HATRED, of America unlike any I have ever seen, including the turbulent '60s!!

As Scott Adams said in an opinion piece back in January 2017:

"But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons."

(Because they so hate Trump, and so believe they are right, they need to make Trump BE Hitler to confirm and prop-up their own self-identity)

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/156540315831/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-especially-if-it-is

We are dealing with a very, different animal right now folks, 50 years of social/economic welfare and the destruction of American values has created a monster. Watch your backs.

1 posted on 10/03/2017 1:27:25 AM PDT by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

It is impossible to learn the truth from the Deep State/Media/FBI Complex.


2 posted on 10/03/2017 1:32:37 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Az Joe

“Las Vegas shooter?”

Oh! You mean “Abu Abdul Bar al-Amriki, AKA Stephen Paddock.” Okay!

;-)


3 posted on 10/03/2017 1:38:23 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Az Joe

Bet he’s antifa.


4 posted on 10/03/2017 1:39:06 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

There must be an internet trail.


5 posted on 10/03/2017 1:41:51 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: TTFlyer

They already know, by now they have his phone calls and text messages and social media posts and internet searches and credit card transactions and travel records and bank and brokerage statements and casino records. The same for his girlfriend.

Since nothing has been leaked by the FBI to the media about what ideas were in his head, it’s either Democrat terrorist like the Alexandria shooter or ISIS.

They’ll probably stand pat with what they’ve fed the press so far, that is a retired accountant lone wolf who just snapped for a reason that is unfathomable.


6 posted on 10/03/2017 1:42:08 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: TTFlyer

Just a comment: Unsubstantiated but interesting?

I am in Mesquite, NV on a working sabbatical. I have been here since 9-23-17. PAddock lived 12 minutes away by vehicle from where I am currently staying.

My friend who suggested I come here has lived here for 3 years. In that time she informed me today, that Paddock was very often seen at the Virgin River Casino in Mesquite, I had coffee there a week ago. It is a small one level kinda dumpy small town casino ala old town Vegas. She told me Paddock was a degenerate gambler, often drunk and she said the word “leftie”.


7 posted on 10/03/2017 1:43:11 AM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA: James Rocknowski)
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To: Meet the New Boss

This shooting stinks to high heaven on so many levels. The Federal Government is corrupt from top to bottom as is Corporate Media. Their mission is to hide or bend the truth to serve their agendas.

So far, this event reminds me in many ways of the Kennedy Assassination.


8 posted on 10/03/2017 1:49:44 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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My most plausible theory: This guy is a left-wing nutcase who flipped out.

My most plausible conspiracy theory: Democrats manipulated this guy into the mass shooting to change a narrative that they are losing, just as they said on Project Veritas video that they manipulate crazy people at Trump rallies. [Unlikely, but it’s more likely than anything else other than a nutcase flipping out.]


9 posted on 10/03/2017 1:54:24 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Az Joe

I agree, that is the likeliest explanation. His ex-wife was ethnic Japanese and his girlfriend was Filipina and from his months and months of hanging out in Nevada casinos he probably knows lots of illegal Filipinos and Hispanics working in the casinos. And if he listens to the mainstream media pound the drumbeat that Trump and his supporters are white supremacists and the loss of Las Vegas as a sanctuary city and many people, maybe even his girlfriend being exposed to deportation. So he went Democrat/Antifa terrorist on the ‘fascists’.

I don’t rule out ISIS though. The life of a supposed professional video poker player must be pretty empty spiritually and incredibly boring after the first day or two. Doing that for months on end? Soul-crushing. And he’s probably been involved with criminal activities, with perhaps a lot of guilt to be rationalized away. The signs add up to a career not as a professional gambler but as a money launderer. Perhaps for the cartels and others who need to launder money, into the many residential real estate properties he seems to have been involved in over the years. I saw one press report that he was listed at 27 different addresses in Nevada, Florida and Texas in recent years. And that excludes California where he lived for many years.

He seemed to steer scrupulously away from anything that might bring contact with law enforcement. He kept aloof from neighbors, telling them only that he earned a living as a professional gambler (perhaps to conceal money laundering). Maybe he was himself for a while involved in drug transportation using his private planes. He might well have come into contact with ISIS types in these activities.


10 posted on 10/03/2017 1:55:43 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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Just exactly how does one become a multi-millionaire “managing apartments”?


11 posted on 10/03/2017 1:59:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: RacerX1128

Interesting.


12 posted on 10/03/2017 2:02:23 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Good post


13 posted on 10/03/2017 2:02:46 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Az Joe
The bizarre interviews his bizarre brother has been giving. Anyone who watches and studies them comes away with the feeling that something is off about him and what he is saying about his brother. He is hiding something.


We used to be able to immediately identify when someone was acting strange, and call it out. Now, for example if you mention that Sandy Hook parents were acting more than a little odd, you have people trying to shame you into silence. They honestly had a medical examiner cracking jokes the next day. A parent laughing on camera less than 24 hrs after finding out his child had died. Others fake crying or smiling. And, most, setting up “go fund me” pages. Fund them for what?

Something has changed in our society, and I don't just mean with the left. It's like we can't ascertain normal anymore? What is going on. Brainwashing?

14 posted on 10/03/2017 2:12:47 AM PDT by magglepuss
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To: Darksheare

To your list of suspicions, I would add: isn’t it convenient that the female interest is conveniently out of the country?

Was this part of the plan to avert attention from her being complicit?

Time will tell.


15 posted on 10/03/2017 2:19:37 AM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: Daffynition

I think the female lady came to realize he was broke. Whatever fortune that he had...no longer existed.


16 posted on 10/03/2017 2:33:38 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Good point; perhaps she will cooperate. Surely, there is something of use to the police.


17 posted on 10/03/2017 2:35:29 AM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: RacerX1128

A degenerate gambler and drunk would certainly explain why he would spiral down into some sort of depression which ultimately led to his suicide. In the end isn’t this what this is a suicide? As far as him being a lefty? The only thing that makes me think that could be true is his girlfriend’s ex-husband is a pretty out there lefty. Maybe she’s apolitical and her ex husband’s views didn’t matter to her? I don’t know. There doesn’t seem to be much of a social media trail with this Paddock guy.


18 posted on 10/03/2017 2:41:35 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Az Joe

Anti Trump Psychosis! Yes! It has been heavily promoted by the leftist media. This level of vitriol and demagoguery will invariably find itself to the surface in the form of violent eruption. Dems and the media likely have this blood on their hands.


19 posted on 10/03/2017 2:44:04 AM PDT by Awgie (Truth is always stranger than fiction.)
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To: Az Joe

Why does the photo they keep showing have his hand blurred? Giving the finger too offensive? Or is it the 1 finger Muslim salute?


20 posted on 10/03/2017 2:46:38 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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