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The 10 Most Complex Sci-fi Movies of All Time
Taste of Cinema ^ | September 21, 2017 | Mike Gray

Posted on 09/24/2017 12:04:34 PM PDT by EveningStar

By its very nature, the sci-fi genre is relatively complex: the short stories, novels, TV series and films that comprise speculative fiction necessitate detailed expository passages to build its far-flung futures, reality-bending premises, and stories set in a galaxy far, far away.

Whether the story is set on an alien world populated by creatures markedly different from human beings, in a future separated by centuries or eons from the present in which society, technology, science, and civilization itself have evolved into a nearly unrecognizable state, or center around time or space travel, sci-fi stories require complex set-ups to create a believable reality that’s very different from our own.

Because of this, the sci-fi genre also allows for its stories to become quite complex. Time travel stories thrive on complexity while, depending on the story, other elements may be willfully obtuse to create an air of mystery or disorientation in the viewer–and some sci-fi stories are much more complex than others.

Here are 10 sci-fi films that are purposely complex ...

10. Predestination (2014) ...

9. The Man Who Fell To Earth (1976) ...

8. The Fountain (2006) ...

7. Coherence (2013) ...

6. Upstream Color (2013) ...

5. Primer (2004) ...

4. Inception (2010) ...

3. The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across The 8th Dimension (1984) ...

2. Solaris (1972) ...

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) ...

(Excerpt) Read more at tasteofcinema.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: cinema; film; movies; sciencefiction; scifi; sf
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To: notdownwidems
Several years ago, I bought a Blu-Ray copy of 2001 to go with my brand new HDTV and brand-new BR player.

It was stunning and spectacular. The last time I had seen it before that was at a Sci-Fi convention in the 1980s.

201 posted on 09/27/2017 9:58:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Borges

Nabakov is wrong. You are wrong. Tying complexity into greatness is failing to understand both words. Great art knows what it is and does it well. Sometimes it can be incredibly simple. Sometimes it can be complex. The important part is that it understand what it is and be that. If what it is is simple then it should be simple very well. If your song is the Sex Pistol’s Anarchy in the UK don’t try to turn it into a King Crimson song. If your song is supposed to be this big ol noodle jam of intricate chord progression don’t try to squeeze it into 2 minutes of angst. Great art is what it should be.


202 posted on 09/27/2017 10:01:35 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: EveningStar

The fact that 12 Monkeys is not mentioned is sinful.


203 posted on 09/27/2017 10:03:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Gideon7

Interstellar was indeed very twisty.


204 posted on 09/27/2017 10:03:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: discostu

The gist of it is, that not all complexity is great but greatness is always complex.


205 posted on 09/27/2017 10:04:37 AM PDT by Borges
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To: discostu

Inception is a great example of complexity that sucked.


206 posted on 09/27/2017 10:05:39 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

And that is WRONG. Greatness can be VERY simple.


207 posted on 09/27/2017 10:07:19 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: Borges

That’s your hangup with Nolan. Similar to my hangup with Spielberg. Except I’m right and you’re full of beans ;)


208 posted on 09/27/2017 10:07:53 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

Greatness can SEEM simple. :) My hangup with Nolan is that he writes flat characters and flat dialogue which he heavily relies for exposition since he can’t tell stories visually.


209 posted on 09/27/2017 10:11:05 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Wrong. Greatness can BE simple. I’ve already given you example of great simplicity, I can spend days on that. But you’re addicted to Nabakov’s silly idea that greatness must be complex, so you won’t get it.

Much like you’re addicted to not liking Nolan and therefore you insist he’s bad. You’re wrong on that one too. Somebody you should learn to understand that just because you don’t like doesn’t make it bad. It just means it’s not your thing.


210 posted on 09/27/2017 10:13:26 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: mewzilla

“I defy anyone to watch the Emperor on the escalator bit, for example, and not bust a gut laughing. “

I have it saved as a “favorite” on YouTube for whenever I need a laugh. It’s great. The Emperor is sort of like Ari on HBOs Entourage - at least to me anyway.


211 posted on 09/27/2017 10:14:24 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Mercat
Laugh a-while you can, Monkey Boy!
212 posted on 09/27/2017 10:21:40 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: discostu

Your example of the Bad Company song doesn’t matter because I don’t regard pop music as high art. Even really good pop music. I love the song ‘Johnny B Goode’ but I wouldn’t defend it as great art. Popular art I guess? I realize that this sort of distinction is very out of fashion in the postmodern age. And I gave a very specific reason why I dislike Nolan’s films. Anyway, I sort of like ‘The Prestige’.


213 posted on 09/27/2017 11:28:07 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

There you are being all reductive, and snobby. Of course pop music can be high art.

But really that’s besides the point. There TON of simple great art. Look at Die Hard, generally considered to be the most technically perfect action movie ever. And you can’t get more simple.

Yes you specific reason for DISLIKING Nolan. None of which show they aren’t GREAT movies. You just don’t like them.


214 posted on 09/27/2017 12:42:27 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

Snobbery is the chastity of the perfectionist. Anyway, as far as action films go, I would take The Warriors over ‘Die Hard’ any day. Not to mention ‘The Road Warrior’. But I like John McTiernan in general - he really knows how to compose for the wide screen really well. His remake of ‘The Thomas Crown Affair’ is beautifully shot and beats the hell out of the original. And no I don’t regard any of those films as great art. The question of whether or not film can even be great art is not at all settled. I’m not sure actually. But that’s a separate issue.


215 posted on 09/27/2017 1:07:27 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

No, snobbery is being a douchebag for no good reason.

We’ve already discussed The Warriors, it’s a piece of crap. And you even admitted the dialog sucks.

At this point what we know is that what you consider great art is probably the dumbest list in the world. Basically it has to be complex, and it can’t be popular. Of course film can be great art, anybody that thinks that’s even a question has crawled up their own ass into stupid land.


216 posted on 09/27/2017 1:10:14 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

The issue with film is this...if you think of the greatest films ever made (whatever you consider them to be), do they even bear comparison with the greatest works of other media? Hitchcock vs Proust? Kurosawa Vs. Mozart? Lubitsch Vs Rembrandt? The filmmakers look bad in comparisons like that. I think it has something to do with the fact that film is a collaborative medium where the expressive weight is diluted (acting, writing, photography, music).


217 posted on 09/27/2017 1:14:28 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

That’s not an issue. The filmmaker looks fine in comparison. That’s one of those over contemplating their naval things lit majors participate in which is why people don’t like them. It has to do with a group of people being snobs and unwilling to admit awesome things can be popular. They like their high art to be obscure and unloved by the masses, it’s helps them feel special. As soon as we start to admit high art can be enjoyed by the masses the literati are no longer special.


218 posted on 09/27/2017 1:24:04 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

It has nothing to do with popularity or obscurity. A lot of great literature, music etc is also very popular. In regards to music I was using the word ‘popular’ in the technical sense: Serious music is where the notated score transcends any single performance. Any time that’s not the case, it’s popular music.


219 posted on 09/27/2017 1:27:59 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Oh it ABSOLUTELY has to do with popularity and obscurity. The literati are the original hipsters, they’re all about being into things others never heard of. That’s their ego stroke. They give exceptions to things that haven’t been popular in 100 or more (more is better) years, but they love the crap that nobody else does. Remember when Amadeus hit and all of a sudden the literati start “reconsidering” Mozart, because the masses were suddenly into it and that made him not obscure anymore.

“Serious music” is a false label created by snobs. Plenty of stuff can be popular and be great because of the notated score not the performance. That’s a purely made up and 100% dumb either/ or to construct.


220 posted on 09/27/2017 1:34:28 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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