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Why Americans can blame pirates for not using the metric system
http://www.nola.com/ ^ | 9/19/17

Posted on 09/19/2017 4:01:46 PM PDT by BBell

The proposal, conceived by a bunch of pointy-headed Parisian philosophes, sounded brilliant: A universal system of measurement, derived from decimal-based units and identified by a shared set of prefixes. It would end the era of merchants buying goods according to one unit, selling in another, and pocketing the ill-gotten profit. It would simplify scientific calculations and enable the free exchange of ideas around the world. It was an enlightened system for an enlightened time. If only the French scientists could persuade other countries to adopt it.

But pirates have a way of ruining even the best-laid plans.

In 1793, botanist and aristocrat Joseph Dombey set sail from Paris with two standards for the new "metric system": a rod that measured exactly a meter, and a copper cylinder called a "grave" that weighed precisely one kilogram. He was journeying all the way across the Atlantic to meet Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson - a fellow fan of base-ten systems who, Dombey hoped, would help persuade Congress to go metric.

Then a storm rolled in, knocking Dombey's ship off course. The unlucky academic was washed into the Caribbean - and straight into the clutches of British pirates. Technically, they were "privateers" because they were tacitly sanctioned by His Majesty's government so long as they only raided foreign ships. But it amounted to the same thing. The brigands took Dombey hostage and looted his equipment. The luckless scientist died in prison shortly after his capture; his belongings were auctioned off to the highest bidders.

France sent a second emissary to promote the metric system. But by the time the replacement arrived, America had a new secretary of state, Edmund Randolph, who apparently didn't care much for measurement. As the rest of the world adopted the metric system, the U.S. continued to bumble around with

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To: Reeses

Objects are way easier to divide into 2 equal sized pieces than into 5.


41 posted on 09/19/2017 4:31:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well NASA has gone metric. Around 2007 I believe.


42 posted on 09/19/2017 4:33:22 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: RegulatorCountry

It’s not human-scaled.


And that’s its biggest problem. The foot is about the size of an average man’s foot (at least with shoes on). So getting an idea of how many feet something is, is toe to heel. A yard is about the distance from nose to outstretched finger tip, so cloth can be approximately measured that way. It also is about an average stride—the meter (based on the imagined distance from north pole to equator) is just a tad too long. Even the fathom is based on the distance of outstretched arms—very useful for playing out line at sea. Horses’ heights are measured in ‘hands’ which most people have handy.

The gram is so little that the kilogram is the standard for mass (although it is used to weigh things). Even temperatures are a lot more human friendly with Fahrenheit degrees instead of Celsius/centigrade—too much of human life is spent below zero using it. The man who determined ideal human temperature used the Celsius scale, that’s why we think 98.6ºF is “normal”.

The only big advantage is conversions and except in school, how often does one convert miles to inches? And as stated above, it creates a false sense of precision.


43 posted on 09/19/2017 4:34:16 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: BBell
Well NASA has gone metric. Around 2007 I believe.

And what, other than Muslim outreach, have they accomplished since?

I rest my case, lol.

44 posted on 09/19/2017 4:34:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BBell

The weight of gold is measured in troy ounces since the Middle Ages. Until gold starts being measured in kilograms and grams then I know that the metric system is pure BS. Otherwise it`s still an ounce of gold on all the world markets, not grams/kg`s.

Reuters:
“Spot gold was up 0.21 percent at $1,309.32 per ounce by 2:14p.m. EDT (1814 GMT), off the previous day’s low of $1,304.10”


45 posted on 09/19/2017 4:36:09 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: RegulatorCountry
"It’s not human-scaled"

A pint is the perfect amount of beer to hold in your hand and to measure your night's progress with. Beats liters all to hell.

A pound is sixteen ounces which makes 1/2 lb, 1/4 lb and 1/8 lb easy to do at the butcher's counter. Lets see you match that with a kilogram. Ditto for the foot. 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6 all in even inches.

I've got metric tools but I don't buy cars that require them.
46 posted on 09/19/2017 4:36:47 PM PDT by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
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To: BBell

Major repairs on my ‘66 bug required a 36mm socket (easily approximated by an English socket).

For me, major repairs usually involve 3/4” Drive tools. (and I usually am working on my <6000# GVW personal vehicles)


47 posted on 09/19/2017 4:37:11 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I mentioned when I worked for a surveyor we broke down everything in tenths. I remember the first time I say a surveying tape, in tenths. I was strange at first, a foot divided into tenths..


48 posted on 09/19/2017 4:39:04 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: qam1

A mile is 1,000 strides (from Latin for 1,000).

A five mile walk per day gets you 5,000 strides or, in other words, the 10,000 steps that physiologists encourage us to take every day.


49 posted on 09/19/2017 4:39:10 PM PDT by Prolixus (Drain the swamp!!!)
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To: qam1

Not to mention a meter is a length decided on by a committee and not anything at all in the physical world. Nothing is a meter in length.


50 posted on 09/19/2017 4:40:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I was just a rod man, not a surveyor. Those guys did all the conversions.


51 posted on 09/19/2017 4:41:00 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: Reeses

“In your head”...


52 posted on 09/19/2017 4:41:32 PM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: BBell

Base 10 systems of measurement don’t work well for people. Mathematically they’re nice, but functionally they suck. A base 60 or base 12 system would work much better built around human relatable base measurements. And thanks to modern calculators the argument for using base 10 math is pretty much dead.


53 posted on 09/19/2017 4:41:44 PM PDT by JohnyBoy (We should forgive communists, but not before they are hanged.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
As the rest of the world adopted the metric system, the U.S. continued to bumble around with unwieldy imperial units.

Yes, we've only ever been a bunch of bumblers here in the United States. /s


Or be like the UK and mix them up.

They buy petrol in litres but measure fuel efficiency in miles per gallon...:^)

54 posted on 09/19/2017 4:43:29 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: BBell
I blame pirates for arrrrgyleg socks, arrrrbiters, arrrtichokes, and Shakespeare in OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s

55 posted on 09/19/2017 4:44:26 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: Paladin2

That 36mm is for the hubs right? My buddy used do love bugs. I can’t remember how many pounds of pressure he said you needed to tighten the hubs up on the rear wheels but he said you need a cheater bar.


56 posted on 09/19/2017 4:44:47 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: az_gila
I guess they're just smarter than us, they manage to get way more mpg on Imperial gallons than we do, but we're still bumbling along not doing nearly so well on our bumbly US gallons. And then there's that ethanol, don't even get me started on the imprecision of that, lol.
57 posted on 09/19/2017 4:47:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: CodeToad
"Not to mention a meter is a length decided on by a committee and not anything at all in the physical world."

I think it was based on one millionth of the distance from the equator to the pole but I'm not sure. I'll go out and walk it off and let you know.
58 posted on 09/19/2017 4:47:49 PM PDT by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
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To: BBell
I mentioned when I worked for a surveyor we broke down everything in tenths. I remember the first time I say a surveying tape, in tenths. I was strange at first, a foot divided into tenths..

A lot easier to calculate than multiples of 12. Can always convert once you've gotten a final total.

Machining in America is also in tenths, and so far as I know, it has always been so.

59 posted on 09/19/2017 4:48:13 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: BBell

This is just a bald lie:
“. A bushel of oats purchased in New Jersey contained 32 pounds of grain; but a merchant could then take his wares north to Connecticut, where a bushel was just 28 pounds, and turn a tidy profit.”

If a Bushel cost 32 cents in NJ then it would cost 28 cents in Connecticut.
People aren’t stupid with their money. (Well, not in general.)

Fun read though on Talk Like A Pirate Day.


60 posted on 09/19/2017 4:48:20 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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