Posted on 09/18/2017 9:55:52 AM PDT by Morgana
An engineering student who was also an LGBTQ activist was shot and killed by Georgia Tech campus police on Saturday night, officials said Sunday.
The school identified the victim as Scout Schultz, 21, a fourth-year engineering student from Lilburn, Georgia, who police said was armed with a knife. Schultz, president of Georgia Tech's Pride Alliance, identified as non-binary and intersex and preferred to be referred to with they/them gender pronouns, according to the alliance's website.
At a news conference Monday, Schultz"s family's attorney said the student was experiencing a "mental breakdown" on the night on the shooting.
"What was Scout doing that day? Standing there disoriented, having a mental breakdown and was shot from 20 feet away," said the attorney, L. Chris Stewart.
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I suggest you actually read the posted article, then get back to me and we’ll chat.
FIne. Don’t shed any tears. But the fact remains, according to the posted article, that a cop shot an emotionally distraught kid who was holding a leatherman tool. The kid didn’t have to die.
We all know media accounts can be fragmentary, garbled, and incomplete. But based on what's been published, seriously, tell me: is there something I missed?
Nowhere in the article or on the video is the kid “jogging” toward an officer (where did you get that?). The article states he didn’t have a knife (he had a leatherman with the knife closed). This kid shouldn’t have been shot by the police.
A mentally ill male who many people enabled.
I said “IF he was walking at 5 mph.”. I didn’t say he was “jogging”.
You don’t gain credibility by misquoting.
Can you tell at 20 feet if a person moving towards you in a menacing manner, described by the 9-1-1 dispatch as having a “knife”, actually has a gravity-action drop blade, a spring-action switchblade, a penknife, or a leatherman? Having been alerted by 9-1-1 that you are facing an armed, intoxicated man, could you determine his status with certainty in under 3 seconds?
I am not a person who reflexively defends the LEOs in all circumstances. Sometimes there is gross misuse of force. In this case, I think the cop was *set up* by Schultz to do exactly what he did.
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Sorry, you’re right, I did say jogging. My mistake. “Scratches head.” I have RA in both knees and can creep along at 3 mph. A young man walking normslky could easily be doing 5mph, which is 7.33 fps.
If I were on a jury I would carefully consider all the evidence and be open, on the basis of demonstrated facts, to form a different opinion. But on the basis of what’s in the published accounts, it looked like Schultz planned and intended to present a credible threat to the LEO, and he succeeded.
Schultz planned and intended for the cop to shoot him, and he succeeded there, too.
Whether the cop had, say, 6 seconds, rather than 3 seconds to react, is, I think, a quibble. It’s only subsequently -— in hindsight-— that they knew exactly what kind of “knife” he was holding.
I think you misunderstand me. I am not calling for prosecution of the officer involved. I think he was justified in the shooting. I just believe he made a mistake in judgment and really didn’t need to take lethal action. This kid was crying for help. It was clearly not his intent to do harm to others. Wish the officer had restrained himself.
Methinks they took the phrase “don’t taze me bro” one step too far.
Taze him!
For pitys sake be like Robert Maldoon from Jurassic Park “SHOOT HER!! SHOOT HER!!” With a high power tazer
He was able to plan the scenario beforehand. That gave him the advantage.
You do realize the article represents the views of the lawyer who is looking for a payday.
It appears that although the knife blade was not extended, that the Leatherman body, with metal plating on the handles, was opened - could be perceived as a knife from a distance.
The kid wouldn’t have died had he followed simple commands.
It’s a man, who is dead because he didn’t drop the knife as he was told by a cop.
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