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1 posted on 09/17/2017 9:09:26 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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Ping.....


2 posted on 09/17/2017 9:09:52 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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And of course Henry George was a proponent of the single tax.
A tax on unimproved land. His argument was that raw land was fixed in supply and a tax on land owners would be paid by them and not the purchaser. (incorrect on both counts)

As I recall he ran for mayor of New York City in 1886 and came in second. Teddy Roosevelt came in third.


3 posted on 09/17/2017 9:28:55 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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He’s not a socialist because he advocates what socialist advocate ... just locally rather than at the central government level?

Riiiiight.

Rauschenbusch is shoveling some serious BS there. And not a good sort of BS either....

Progressivism is simply bad. Even early on it was opposed to everything this country was actually founded to be and it has only gotten worse.

If only George had applied his talents to upholding the true private ownership of all property (real to intellectual) and all means of production and distribution rather than any form of corporate or communal ownership by mere entities (ESPECIALLY the government) then he might have done the world some good.


4 posted on 09/17/2017 9:29:19 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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All people do not have the same level of experience, education (not just school) and intellect.

Most people are in The Great Mean and spend their lives struggling to maximize their benefits using what skills they have.

But, what of The Outliers?

Specifically, those who have higher levels of experience, education and intellect.

What should they do?

How should they behave towards those who have lesser amounts of experience, education and intellect?

Should they seek to help them or to take advantage of them?


5 posted on 09/17/2017 9:31:28 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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"I pointed out that Progressives do not (and I believe they cannot; they are impaired from doing so) distinguish between "Government" and "Society". For a progressive, society is government and government is society."

Is one correct in assuming that this statement also applies if one substitutes the word "village" for the words, "Government" and "Society"? If so, then Hillary has made her position on the offspring of citizens (offspring whom the "elites" of the system allow to be birthed) quite clear, hasn't she?

We might note that in her "world," some births are to be celebrated (such as those who are her grandchildren) and some are to be prevented at will.

7 posted on 09/17/2017 9:50:00 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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Progress and poverty is the only gift democrats know how to give.


8 posted on 09/17/2017 9:51:12 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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The Ten Planks of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto
(and How Statists Implement Them)

  1. Abolition of private property rights (via high property taxes, restrictive zoning laws, "fair housing" edicts, environmental and "wetlands" regulations, UN Agenda 21, etc.)

  2. Institution of a heavily graduated income tax (by calling it "taxing the rich")

  3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance (through a confiscatory estate tax on "the rich")

  4. Confiscation of the property of enemies of the state (through lawless application of asset forfeiture and eminent domain)

  5. Centralization of credit into the hands of the state (Federal Reserve, Federal Trade Commission, TARP, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, federal takeover of student loans, etc.)

  6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation into the hands of the state (FCC, DOT, FEMA, NTSB, FAA, etc.).

  7. Consolidation and subjugation of all major industries to central government control (FDA, EPA, OSHA, ICC, HUD, NLRB, EEOC, DOE, TSA etc.)

  8. Mandatory labor union membership ("card check" to bypass employee consent, automatic withholding of union dues, forced unionization of health care workers, teachers, police, firefighters, etc.)

  9. Equitable redistribution of all wealth (TANF, SSI, EITC, SNAP, Community Reinvestment Act, etc.)

  10. Free public education (and food, housing, health care, cell phones, Internet access, etc.)

9 posted on 09/17/2017 9:56:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( "If fascism ever comes to America, it will be called liberalism." --Ronald Reagan)
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Georgists are still around. The offer courses in large cities and also online. I don't really understand their theory, but I think they have the idea that a tax on the value of land would encourage more "rational" and "responsible" use of land. Georgists would deny that they were socialists in the usual sense of the word, but many people were moved to become socialists after going through a Georgist phase. More here.

Some villages or towns were founded as Georgist colonies: Fairhope, AL, Arden, DE, Free Acres, NJ, Rose Valley, PA. Some failed (Halidon, ME, Tahanto, MA), but others went on to become liberal or leftist or bohemian or non-conformist centers. There was some connection between Georgism and the "Little Lander" movement that sought to create self-reliant agricultural communes on the land.

31 posted on 09/17/2017 1:02:18 PM PDT by x
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1886: The Men Who Would Be Mayor
32 posted on 09/17/2017 1:35:10 PM PDT by x
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