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Why judge acquitted St. Louis cop of first-degree murder
http://nypost.com ^
| 09/16/20107
| AP
Posted on 09/16/2017 3:12:14 PM PDT by heterosupremacist
WICHITA, Kan. A judges decision to acquit an officer of murder in the death of a black suspect came down to two major questions: Did the officer plant a gun, and did his outburst about killing the man seconds before the shooting signal premeditation?
St. Louis Circuit Judge Timothy Wilson determined Friday that prosecutors failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Jason Stockleys use of deadly force was not justifiable self-defense. Anthony Lamar Smith was killed in the 2011 encounter.
Ultimately when people argue about this case, they are going to be arguing whether the judge drew the right conclusion from the evidence and probably less about the law, said Ben Trachtenberg, an associate professor of law at the University of Missouri.
Heres a look at how the judge parsed those arguments in his ruling:
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KEYWORDS: dna; drugs; shooting; stockley
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To: heterosupremacist
Former St. Louis Police Officer Jason Stockley
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:13:59 PM PDT
by
heterosupremacist
(Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
To: heterosupremacist
I read the pdf file of the judge's decision.It seems that self defense was much more likely than “murder”.Sounds like the cop was smart to opt for a “bench trial”...it seems likely that he would faced an OJ jury.
To: Gay State Conservative
If a citizen had done the same thing, would he have been acquitted? Very doubtful. Cops seem to live by a different set of laws than the rest of us do.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:27:35 PM PDT
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: heterosupremacist
Looks like the Judge did a good job weighing the evidence he had to work with. Not a good idea to run from the police.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:32:43 PM PDT
by
willk
(everyone)
To: heterosupremacist
Why was the date line “Wichita”? Wichita is a 7 hour drive from St. Louis.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:33:58 PM PDT
by
Mercat
(I know my redeemer lives.)
To: heterosupremacist
“Finally, the Court observes, based on its nearly thirty years on the bench, that an urban heroin dealer not in possession of a firearm would be an anomaly, the judge wrote.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:34:32 PM PDT
by
gunnut
To: coloradan
If a citizen had done the same thing, would he have been acquitted? Very doubtful. I think the decision was probably right. And yet, so is your comment. Citizens should be afforded the same benefit of the doubt when confronting criminals.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:44:54 PM PDT
by
MileHi
(Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
To: Gay State Conservative
When the facts are on your side...
Jury trials are always dicey
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:46:20 PM PDT
by
Nifster
(I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
To: Gay State Conservative
My guess is his lawyer suggested it.
Either way. VERY smart. a judge is more likely to disconnect from “feelings” than your average off the street jury member.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:46:36 PM PDT
by
cableguymn
(We need a redneck in the white house....)
To: gunnut
“....so the hell with the evidence nonsense. I knew going in I’d let this cop go.”
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:46:43 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
To: heterosupremacist
His life is ruined. I hope he can work as a cop again.
He almost was a sacrificial lamb - the hated “White” who is blamed for all the evils of the world.
The street savages will use this as an excuse to loot, burn, and shoot cops.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:47:40 PM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(Cynicism is the only option for remaining sane in a criminally insane world.)
To: Gay State Conservative
Which is precisely why we have a jury system.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:50:18 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
To: I want the USA back
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:50:58 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
To: heterosupremacist
The left wants a double standard in criminal courts too; one for gang bangers and one for white cops. That’s what’s happened to the rule of law in this country.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:54:47 PM PDT
by
Spok
("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (GrouchNewo))
To: heterosupremacist
We don’t have perfection, but a country that can still argue about such matters has hope. It’s when the arguments stop and the stones and bullets fly that we have lost reason.
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posted on
09/16/2017 3:58:23 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
To: I want the USA back
I want the USA back wrote ~~~ >>>The street savages will use this as an excuse to loot, burn, and shoot cops.<<< You know it!
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posted on
09/16/2017 4:22:13 PM PDT
by
heterosupremacist
(Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
To: coloradan
Of course they live under a different set of rules, just as soldiers do. The police officers job puts them into positions were the use of deadly force is sometimes necessary in order to seize suspected violators of the law. In this case the suspect clearly showed no willingness to surrender peacefully.
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posted on
09/16/2017 4:30:53 PM PDT
by
MCF
(If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
To: I want the USA back
“The street savages will use this as an excuse to loot, burn, and shoot cops.”
Which the governor should take as an opportunity to rid St. Louis of its street savages.
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posted on
09/16/2017 4:36:29 PM PDT
by
dsc
(Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
To: coloradan
If a citizen had done the same thing, would he have been acquitted? Very doubtful So, you feel sorry for a drug dealing scumbag, that rammed his car onto a police car and lead police on a high speed chase, endangering innocent lives in the process?
I would have given a damn if the officer had shot him in the back of the head as soon as fled the scene.
Drug dealers' lives don't matter.
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posted on
09/16/2017 4:56:18 PM PDT
by
Kazan
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