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Physicists Want to Rebuild Quantum Theory From Scratch
WIRED ^ | 09/02/17 | Philip Ball

Posted on 09/04/2017 8:13:26 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

How would they know that two “entangled” particles “communicate” over a distance, when quantum theory says that if you examine something at the quantum level you CHANGE IT? Eh?

What’s really stupid is when someone applies quantum uncertainty to something larger than an atom, such as the Universe, or an imaginary cat. Universes popping in and out of existence. Cats being dead and alive. Sorry, but that’s not science. It’s science fiction.


21 posted on 09/04/2017 9:32:26 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Moonman62

Quantum Theory is based on experimental results. Yet it is the most precise theory we have in all the sciences. The theory is bizarre because the experimental results are bizarre. The experiments came first, then the theory.


The results seem bizarre because the models we have are a poor fit to the reality of whatever is going on in the physical world. They’re the best theories we have at the moment, but twisting them to fit the observed results makes the results look odd, because or observation point-of-view is off.

It is like the days of when people thought the Earth was the center of the Universe. To explain the motion of all the planets and stars required one to believe they were following very strange trajectories.


22 posted on 09/04/2017 9:32:46 AM PDT by Flick Lives (#CNNblackmail)
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To: Enlightened1

The only thing I get from reading popular literature on Quantum Physics is a certainty that reality is not at all what we think it is.


23 posted on 09/04/2017 9:54:54 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Enlightened1

The difference between science and screwing around is taking notes.


24 posted on 09/04/2017 9:54:59 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Is it even possible that there are things that can’t be understood or explained by man?

Something as ubiquitous as gravity, for instance. While it’s something that is pretty obvious, and physicist know that gravity is a property of mass, they don’t understand how gravity works, or what the source of it is.

Mark


25 posted on 09/04/2017 10:04:29 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: UCANSEE2

10th dimension physics also requires the Cat to be a Ferrari. a hammer. not in the box. me. you. a fish. etc... All at the same time.


26 posted on 09/04/2017 10:04:54 AM PDT by themidnightskulker (And then the thread dies... peacefully, in it's sleep....)
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To: Enlightened1
It all works exactly like the designer of the game designed it to work. We are just used to looking at the presentation layer in our daily lives and now that we are starting to look at the code behind the presentation layer things look a little freaky to us - but we'll get used to that as we start playing around behind the scenes.

I sure hope no one hacks into an essential piece of quantum code and causes the whole system to reboot...
27 posted on 09/04/2017 10:05:00 AM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Enlightened1
My quantum theory is that God does whatever he wants, because he can.
28 posted on 09/04/2017 10:24:49 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Enlightened1

“Some physicists just shrug and say we have to live with the fact that quantum mechanics is weird. So particles can be in two places at once, or communicate instantaneously over vast distances? Get over it.”

But if you believe in God, you’re weird and irrational.


29 posted on 09/04/2017 10:34:43 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: a fool in paradise

I know the cat is dead, but not when. If I knew when, I wouldn’t know if it was dead—or alive.


30 posted on 09/04/2017 11:15:55 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: captain_dave

Too much math involved.

31 posted on 09/04/2017 11:26:29 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Enlightened1

They should ask jaden smith for help. He knows all about quantum theory, he’s always saying he does.


32 posted on 09/04/2017 11:44:20 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: captain_dave


Alf gave him a nice send off.
33 posted on 09/04/2017 11:51:58 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: mountainlion

Quantum theory is not so hard, its just the language used tends to add to the confusion. And btw, things are not in two places at once nor can they ‘communicate’ faster than light. There are no solid ‘things’ only fields that can spread over distance. Things are not in two ‘states’ that have to ‘communicate’ once one state is observed ergo no communication is needed.


34 posted on 09/04/2017 2:43:17 PM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: Enlightened1

Here is an explanation from Penny.

The Big Bang Theory Penny Explains quantum theory.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gA-ZzVgmRc


35 posted on 09/04/2017 4:33:55 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: themidnightskulker
10th dimension physics also requires the Cat to be a Ferrari. a hammer. not in the box. me. you. a fish. etc... All at the same time.

You can be all those things when coming out of hyperdrive.


36 posted on 09/06/2017 8:58:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
BLM says quantum mechanics is RAYCISS!

True dat. Ain't no Obama particle (has no mass, no value, but won't go away), or Maxine Waters Particle (most obnoxious particle).

37 posted on 09/06/2017 9:01:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: camle
I have spoken to quite a few physicists who tell me that you have to suspend disbelief in order to grasp it.

So.... Quantum Theory is a lot like reading a book by Hillary .

38 posted on 09/06/2017 9:03:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Flick Lives
To explain the motion of all the planets and stars required one to believe they were following very strange trajectories.

True, but it did make for some very interesting stories.

39 posted on 09/06/2017 9:07:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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