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Interstate 11 opening causes GPS glitch
FOX 5 Vegas ^ | August 17, 2017 | Faith Tanner

Posted on 09/04/2017 4:15:08 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

LAKE MEAD (FOX5) -

A section of Interstate 11 opened Wednesday between the 95 and Railroad Pass Casino. But some drivers said they are having a hard time navigating it, thanks to a glitch from GPS technology.

When a 2.5 mile stretch of I-11 opened, Apple and Google maps didn't register it. Instead, it caused a major glitch, and instead of routing people down the 95 toward Boulder City and Arizona, drivers were being redirected all the way through Lake Mead National Park. The route takes more time and also comes with a $20 toll.

"I pulled over with all the other people and kinda zoomed out like, 'Ok why is it taking me through this road where I've got to pay $20?" one driver said.

The glitch confused both locals and tourists who forked over the 20 dollar fee to get into the park, just so they wouldn't have to go all the way back around.

"It kinda by default took me through here, I didn't know why, so the $20 charge kinda took me by surprise, I just paid it because I've never been up through here and I thought it was pretty. But coming up here in on a regular basis, that'd probably get irritating," a driver told FOX5.

An Nevada Department of Transportation spokesperson said because only a small section of the I-11 opened and the project is still under construction, the glitch is not that surprising. But N-DOT isn't sure why the GPS systems are taking people all the way through Lake Mead.

Transportation officials said they are trying to get Apple and Google to fix the problem. They're also posting notices on digital freeway signs to let people know the highways are still open.

For the moment, officials suggested drivers use the Waze app because it's updated with all the new information from N-DOT.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Local News; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Travel; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: apple; apps; bouldercity; bug; commuters; construction; drivers; fees; glitch; google; gps; i11; infrastructure; lakemead; locals; lost; nevada; tourists; transportation; us93; us95; waze
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I live in a subdivision that is split North and South. Four blocks of the North addresses were screwed up in the early GPS database. Getting calls from delivery people who were 15 miles out of the way was always amusing.


21 posted on 09/04/2017 6:00:53 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: riverrunner
What happens if they get damaged or the batteries run out and you are in the wilderness somewhere?

They are a convenience and a tool that can fail. Be prepared for when it fails which means reading a map and using a compass. Other than that, they can be a very useful navigation tool.

22 posted on 09/04/2017 6:03:40 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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SUE GOOGLE & APPLE

<><><>It’s the California Way......


23 posted on 09/04/2017 6:04:26 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: who knows what evil?

I bet you were a real family hero. I saw another scene in a parking lot that involved a little kid just beyond the toddler stage that was just as good. Mommy and the kids came out of a store to get back in the station wagon and mommy discovered she’d locked her keys in the car. However, she’d left the back window open far enough that she could pick up the little kid, slide him into the vehicle, and have him open the doors, which he did. Family hero for the day!


24 posted on 09/04/2017 6:04:40 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: oldvirginian

Um, that’s a joke that gets told fairly often in Indianapolis.


25 posted on 09/04/2017 6:05:14 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: libstripper

wonder if there is a plan by the feds to kill the accuracy in times of emergency?

I remember the time when the accuracy was very poor; by design. Clinton had the feds turn off the intentional error and the rest is history. It made a marginally functional consumer product very useful.


26 posted on 09/04/2017 6:06:16 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Kirkwood

Not a joke.
I was parked at the Pilot fuel stop for the night (refuse to call that a truck stop) and heard the last half of his loop de loop as I was fixing and eating my supper.
Poor kid was nearly crying trying to find his way.


27 posted on 09/04/2017 6:18:16 AM PDT by oldvirginian (The older i get the less i care what people think of me, therefore the more i enjoy life.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

GPS is perfect. That’s what will direct autonomous vehicles to their destinations. /s


28 posted on 09/04/2017 6:23:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: riverrunner
"GPS glitches are nothing new."

Oklahoma City... When I travailed I used my Garmin 76 and had no problems really... But Oklahoma City was like picking a hair ball... And for some reason the GPS would be worthless...

29 posted on 09/04/2017 6:31:16 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

GPS shows my address to be about a mile East of where it actually is.

I emailed Garmnin around a year ago and told them of the error. It is not just Garmin btw, all GPS units give it wrong.

About 2 months later I got an answer that he would forward the info to some organization. I updated my GPS around a month ago.

They never did correct the error.


30 posted on 09/04/2017 6:42:34 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; rlmorel; mad_as_he$$; Presbyterian Reporter
WTH is wrong with just turning off the GPS -- and following those nice signs the highway folks spent your tax $$$ on -- for your guidance and enjoyment?

Good grief! With this level of stupidity becoming prevalent, no wonder our destroyers are colliding with bigger ships... :-(

31 posted on 09/04/2017 6:44:45 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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To: oldvirginian

Wonder if it wasn`t the Clermont route.It was moved a bit.

Came into town Thursday for the Nats on 65,the

465W ramp was closed and the Garmim really helped us.

Felt sorry for that poor guy circling Indy over and over.


32 posted on 09/04/2017 6:47:02 AM PDT by Harold Shea (VN vet)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Same thing happens with the technology developed for golfers. Expensive toys meant to determine yardages from tee to green. but the courses are not static. Groundskeepers remodel the holes, but the gizmos are never updated. Five years later, the GPS golf aids are still putting out old information that no longer applies and does not reflect the scorecard.


33 posted on 09/04/2017 6:56:15 AM PDT by PBRCat
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

OMG!!!

We now NEED “driverless cars” because the arrogant technologists have conned the whole population into NOT knowing how to read maps.

We need to send all drivers that own a GPS system to “re-education camps” that have one course, and they have to be required to get an A - map reading 101.


34 posted on 09/04/2017 7:06:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Duh ... how up to date are your paper maps?


35 posted on 09/04/2017 7:12:22 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: fivecatsandadog

Common sense, LOL, is sometimes lacking, that’s for sure.

I heard of a story, in which someone was using GPS, and GPS instructed them to turn left. There was no street there, only train tracks. This person turned left and drove down the train tracks. The fact that there was no road there didn’t register with this driver. The driver did his best to navigate the train tracks with a car.

You can guess the rest. The train came and smashed the car. End of that trip.


36 posted on 09/04/2017 7:14:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Harold Shea

I’ve heard something similar happens in the Washington, DC area, as their beltway, which circles the city, confuses visitors.

I knew somebody who worked road maintenance on the beltway. He told many stories of visitors stopping to ask the road crew how to get somewhere. It’s as if the people are confused by the concept of a road which goes in a circle completely around a city.


37 posted on 09/04/2017 7:17:29 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: dhs12345
"Clinton had the feds turn off the intentional error and the rest is history."

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The civilian GPS timebase signal still has plenty of deliberate "jitter".

I recently put the coordinates for a "missing" survey stake into two identical GPS units. Then, I headed toward that point with the two GPS units -- and a hip pocket full of "pin flags"...

Every time one of the GPS units said I was on the coordinates, I set a flag there, and put the GPS down there to collect and average at least 1,000 readings.

Then, I checked the other unit, which invariably said the point was 50 feet or so "over yonder". Then, I went to that point, flagged it and set down GPS #2 to average 1000 readings.

Then, I went back to the other GPS -- whose "accurate" reading now said the point was 50 feet in yet another direction!.

After repeating the process several times, I had a rough circle of pin flags. So, I "eyeballed" the center, went there, kicked around in the leaves for a bit -- and, uncovered the "missing" survey stake!!.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Bottom line: civilian GPS might be accurate enough for bumbling around on roads -- but, you certainly can't drop a JDAM down an elevator shaft with it...

38 posted on 09/04/2017 7:18:43 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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To: BobL
“... drivers were being redirected all the way through Lake Mead National Park.” Since when did a man-made lake qualify as a National Park? I must be behind the times.

It's officially the Lake Mead National Recreation Area, and includes Black Canyon and Lake Mohave. But the National Park Service manages it. The incompetent journalist should have noted that.

But it's a journalist, so...

39 posted on 09/04/2017 7:19:22 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Paper maps people. Paper maps. When the NDOT opened the section of I-580 between Reno and Carson City, the on board nav system kept showing us offroad 4 wheelin’ for a while once we got south of Mount Rose Hiway.


40 posted on 09/04/2017 7:19:32 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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