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If progressives changed their name again, what new name would they choose?
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Posted on 08/20/2017 3:08:49 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

Technically speaking, progressives have had about six different names. I believe that if the progressives ever did change their name again, they would choose the word "technocrat" as their new hiding place. First, for a little background. Note: this is not designed to be an all-encompassing, uncover-every-stone-history lesson.

Starting out, the earliest progressives were known as "Georgists" - that is, Henry George and the publication of the book Progress and Poverty. Note the word "progress" in the title. Georgists were not the uniform statist that we would come to know, starting around the beginning of the 20th century. One of George's primary claims to fame was the Single Tax, but more importantly, what impressed young budding would-be-progressives was his agitation for land nationalization. They absolutely loved that one.

Meeting only limited success, they eventually dropped "Georgist" and adopted the name of "Nationalist", following the success of Edward Bellamy's book Looking Backward. Much more statist than a Georgist, the Nationalists were (and still are) deeply fond of the idea of the nationalization of some or all industry in the hands of government. They had increasing nation-wide popularity, much moreso than under the prior banner.

Around the time when Looking Backward's popularity was waning, there was a lack of unity of what to call themselves. Some progressives decided to be called Populists, and had their own Populist party that again, still, sought greater government intervention. Others simply decided to call themselves "reformer". The populists were even more popular than their prior iteration, even running their own presidential candidate. The Nationalists never got that far and neither did the Georgists.

Finally, right around the turn of the 1900s the word 'progressive' became vogue in all corners of modern statist academia and among pro-big-government activists on the street. The movement that would inevitably become the "progressive movement" again split, this time succeeding in gaining the presidency in Theodore Roosevelt. Another half of progressives coalesced behind Bryan and then later Wilson, the second big-government progressive to become president.

It wouldn't be until the 1930's and Franklin Roosevelt that the progressives had to again take a new title. But this time, they took a new title for a different reason: They had thoroughly scared the crap out of the American people. Americans had seen progressivism in action for what it actually is and not just nebulous propaganda dressed up in cute words over the last two decades, and they were frightened by it. Every prior re-branding of progressivism was "simply" due to a failure to reach critical mass. But now, they were in active camouflage. The progressives were in hiding, they were wearing masks, masquerading in disguise, something they had never really had to do before.

Under the banner of "liberalism", progressives have had nearly a century (from the 1930's to today) to hide their true means and ends. With every prior name change, progressives could pretty much make something up and chart their course forward. But their movement was almost completely destroyed in the 1910's-20's, and this time they took over an already existing label: "liberalism". This label wasn't being used much and it was not the clean slate that they were used to. However, by taking over a previously known moniker, "liberalism", they found themselves gaining a much thicker layer of camouflage than they had expected to receive. It didn't require the kind of marketing that would've been necessary for a wholly new word.

But eventually, that camouflage began to see its disintegration in the mid-late 2000s, leading some prominent progressives to take off their masks and admit that they never were liberals at all - they were progressives all along and had been for decades. One even did so in a presidential debate.

Tody, there is not a unity among progressives as to whether or not they should reclaim the name of 'progressive', or continue to try to stay incognito under the banner of liberalism, or should they follow Bernie's lead?

As I said in the opening, I think progressives might jump ship altogether and go with what is largely a clean slate. That is their history, it's what they've always done. They've never gone back to a name that they had already used in some prior time. Even when they took over the word "liberalism", it was largely a clean slate.

The word "Technocrat" invokes the "good name" of science, and the media has over the years seeded the ground with plenty of good will toward this moniker.

Could lucky number seven - "Technocrat"; Technocracy - could this moniker lead progressives once and for all toward the salvation they've always sought? Only time will tell. The mask of "liberalism" is fading fast, and a widespread return to "progressive" may not provide the relief they are seeking.


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KEYWORDS: deception; progressingamerica; progressivism; technocrat
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Commies


41 posted on 08/20/2017 4:27:58 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: the left has become a black hole in space and time :-()
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To: ProgressingAmerica

DoublePlusGood!


42 posted on 08/20/2017 4:33:16 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Mao’s Kids


43 posted on 08/20/2017 4:37:06 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
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44 posted on 08/20/2017 4:44:08 PM PDT by ETL (See my FR Home page for a closer look at today's Communist/Anarchist protest groups)
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To: WMarshal
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"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.

The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."

http://cpusa.org/cpusa-2008-electoral-policy/
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Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling:
http://cpusa.org/obama-state-of-the-union-he-got-the-ball-rolling

45 posted on 08/20/2017 4:48:59 PM PDT by ETL (See my FR Home page for a closer look at today's Communist/Anarchist protest groups)
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To: WMarshal

I will second you with COMMUNIST, besides there are too many who don’t know what it truly means.


46 posted on 08/20/2017 4:49:56 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The Highly Deluded


47 posted on 08/20/2017 4:53:33 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
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To: Bellflower

“Regressives”. Because there’s nothing ‘progressive’ in that failed political ideology.

Or, “Aggressives”, as in aggressively and violently stomping out free speech.


48 posted on 08/20/2017 5:03:29 PM PDT by ETL (See my FR Home page for a closer look at today's Communist/Anarchist protest groups)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Based on thier recent behaviour I’d call them, Aggressives.


49 posted on 08/20/2017 5:56:59 PM PDT by edzo4 (Democrats playbook = promise everything, deliver nothing, blame someone else.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Howe about;

“Tolerance or we’ll kill you.”


50 posted on 08/20/2017 5:57:08 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: tet68
I think Stormabtielung is already taken.

Maybe they could just go with Rote Kapelle ?

Roter Frontkämpferbund.

51 posted on 08/20/2017 6:22:12 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Superheroes. They all think they have unique superpowers to do battle with racist idiot muggles.

So many problems have already been solved, that they reinvent or resurrect them so they can say they battled and beat bad, evil people, too.


52 posted on 08/20/2017 6:23:33 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
“Tolerance or we’ll kill you.”...could they ever be that honest?....
53 posted on 08/20/2017 7:15:54 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: ProgressingAmerica

If progressives changed their name again, what new name would they choose?

LOSER!

They have lost over 1,000 seats and now are using violence to get back in power.


54 posted on 08/20/2017 9:55:57 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: ProgressingAmerica
It wouldn't be until the 1930's and Franklin Roosevelt that the progressives had to again take a new title. But this time, they took a new title for a different reason: They had thoroughly scared the crap out of the American people. Americans had seen progressivism in action for what it actually is and not just nebulous propaganda dressed up in cute words over the last two decades, and they were frightened by it. Every prior re-branding of progressivism was "simply" due to a failure to reach critical mass. But now, they were in active camouflage. The progressives were in hiding, they were wearing masks, masquerading in disguise, something they had never really had to do before.
Interesting, slightly off according to William Safire:
the word “liberal” was changed - essentially inverted - in the 1920s (source: Safire’s New Political Dictionary)
“Liberal” was the word for people you and I would agree with before the socialists stole the word from us.

They were able to accomplish that for one simple reason: journalism is bad news. Bad news sells. And yet, journalism claims to be objective - so their business model depends on making people think that negativity is objectivity. Which is a perfect definition of “cynicism.” Journalism is cynical toward society, but this does not map to cynicism about government. To the contrary, government only raison d’être is to ameliorate the shortcomings of society - so naiveté WRT government maps perfectly with cynicism toward government.

And if you want a perfect label for “liberalism” it would have to convey that disposition. And “tyranny” comes pretty close.


55 posted on 08/21/2017 6:30:24 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (A press can be 'associated,' or a press can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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