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They Changed The Definition of Fascism | It's NOT Right Or Left Wing
YouTube ^ | July 7, 2017 | The Red Elephants

Posted on 07/31/2017 6:51:41 AM PDT by wtd



TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: definition; dictionary; fascism
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To: onedoug; Ruy Dias de Bivar; dfwgator; notdownwidems; Leep
It could be interesting to see what others have in their dictionaries from various dates...

So, I ventured to seek out reference books I keep here at home to see what was printed 'back in the day'.

Fascinating to discover that the term "fascism" isn't considered a legal term which would be found in my copy of the Fifth edition of Black's Law Dictionary published in 1979.

However, my copy of Webster's Third New International Dictionary published the following in 1966:


21 posted on 07/31/2017 8:04:23 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

Hitler hated smoking, encouraged abortion and eugenics (as did every liberal favourite, Margaret Sanger), enacted gun controls and was an environmentalist... Does that sound like a right winger?

At heart Hitler was a Socialist and like all good Socialist, he thought government (led by himself of course) should control every aspect of peoples lives, from their morals and beliefs to their daily routines and living conditions. Hitler hated Communism because they hated and threatened Socialism, and he hated Capitalism and Jews being the most obvious symbol of Capitalist success, suffered the most from his hatred of big business and successful entrepreneurship. To point at Hitler and claim he was right winger is completely ridiculous.

Socialism can only flourish through dictatorship, because if people can choose their own direction through regular elections they usually reject Socialism.

Canada is a good example... As Socialist as Canada is, we have never elected an outwardly Socialist government to run the country and while several provincial provinces have elected socialist parties, they are usually roundly rejected at the first opportunity to do so in the next election. Serving as one term regrettable mistakes that reinforce Canada’s refusal (thus far) to elect a federal Socialist government.

Trudeau is probably the most socialist PM to ever be elected, even more so than his father, but even his father was not as outwardly left-wing as Just not Ready. My guess is that his term will be singular in nature given the foolish and amateur way he has led the country.

Unfortunately, for some confounded reason Canada has ended up with several Socialist Supreme Court Justices running our judicial system. And most of them were put in place by a very good Conservative, Stephen Harper our former prime minister... So how we solve that problem is perplexing, especially if we have some constitutional crises and they need to decide who gets to run the government.


22 posted on 07/31/2017 8:08:55 AM PDT by jerod (Socialism=Governance by Government - The National Socialist German Workers' Party is a good example.)
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To: Leep
By the way is that a dude with the towel on their head?

Bunny - pancake....Dude - towel?

23 posted on 07/31/2017 8:09:42 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: VR-21

bkmk


24 posted on 07/31/2017 8:09:46 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: Leep

Man, are you daft? That’s Ferris Bueller.

“Danke Schoen”


25 posted on 07/31/2017 8:13:57 AM PDT by onedoug ( KEK)
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To: wtd
Fascism is the merger of State and Corporate powers.   It's to the Left of Crony Capitalism.


So here is how it really looks like this on a scale of total control to total freedom.  The further left you go is more control while the further right you go more  freedom.


Communist<---National Socialist<-----Socialist<----Fascist<-----Crony Capitalism<----Capitalist<----Anarchist

Dictatorship<--------------Democracy<-----------------------------------------------------Republic-------------Anarchy



Total Control--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Total Freedom

 

26 posted on 07/31/2017 8:15:19 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: onedoug
Man, are you daft? That’s Ferris Bueller.

Yeah, he's getting me out of summer school.

27 posted on 07/31/2017 8:18:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Martin Prince weighs in.
28 posted on 07/31/2017 8:46:54 AM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: Leep
Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under 'communism' and 'fascism'. As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939,
'the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of unfreedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.’
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

What is promised to us as the Road to Freedom is in fact the Highroad to Servitude. For it is not difficult to see what must be the consequences when democracy embarks upon a course of planning. The goal of the planning will be described by some such vague term as 'the general welfare'. There will be no real agreement as to the ends to be attained, and the effect of the people's agreeing that there must be central planning, without agreeing on the ends, will be rather as if a group of people were to commit themselves to take a journey together without agreeing where they want to go: with the result that they may all have to make a journey which most of them do not want at all. ____________— F A Hayek, The Road to Serfdom (May, 1945 Reader’s Digest Condensed Version)


29 posted on 07/31/2017 9:01:50 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (A press can be 'associated,' or a press can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: dfwgator

The appropriate axis is Tyranny - Anarchy.
Left - Right are arcane terms with roots in 18th century French politics!


30 posted on 07/31/2017 9:05:19 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Enlightened1; All; Ruy Dias de Bivar; onedoug; dfwgator; notdownwidems; Leep
FWIW, Here are a few more images of the transitional definitions as found in a variety of dictionaries I keep here at my residence:

Paperback 1994 Merriam Webster Dictionary

Hardcover, Scholastic Children's Dictionary, 1996

Paperback 2001 American Heritage Dictionary

31 posted on 07/31/2017 9:13:16 AM PDT by wtd
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To: onedoug

This looks like there should be a good market for the older,copyrighted dictionaries if you can’t trust the new ones. What else have they changed in the new dictionaries?


32 posted on 07/31/2017 9:16:24 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: cartoonistx
Their origins are arcane. The words are still in use, in a million different ways. So you can't check out.

BTW, a tyranny - anarchy axis may readily omit the axis of good and evil.

33 posted on 07/31/2017 10:12:17 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: dfwgator

The ecistence ov the Comintern and the actions of the CPUSA would contradict that Stalin had foregone internationalization. He did in Russia emphasize the Rodina but the goal of int’l communism never ended.


34 posted on 07/31/2017 12:10:12 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: onedoug

ah ha ha....it’s worse than that. I thought it was a “Degree” Deodorant ad.


35 posted on 07/31/2017 1:30:09 PM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: xkaydet65

I had read in my dad’s old dictionary from the 40’s that fascism is a form of socialism were the government controls by not ownership of private property but by strict regulation of it.

Sounds like Bammy.


36 posted on 07/31/2017 3:56:34 PM PDT by lizma2
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