I am a police officer and I am not protecting this moron. This shooting was way the hell out of policy.
Nor am I letting you call it murder. Educate yourself on the legal definitions of murder and manslaughter for there is a clear distinction.
Logic and reasoning are the purview of conservatives, abject and unrestrained emotionalism is the crutch of liberalism.
Pick one.
Hah, called it. All I needed to know and it makes your position “crystal” clear.
Murder has malice aforethought... now just suppose we could establish that this nut was carrying malice around all the time, ready to trigger on a certain hapless person.
BOOM.
When has history proven placing guns into the hands of Muslims to be a wise move?
How about terrorism then?
“Nor am I letting you call it murder. Educate yourself on the legal definitions of murder and manslaughter for there is a clear distinction.”
Oh, so you are concerned about how you legally describe a cop’s (admittedly a worthless one) taking a innocent women’s life? That’s what I love about you guys, and that’s why I don’t trust you. I wonder what the dead woman’s fiance would do to you if you brought up the subject with him ( I just imagine he’d kick your a$$). But you should not be able to get away with the unjustified killing of a citizen and I don’t give a damn about whatever effing legal description you want to use. “Educate yourself” to caring about the people you serve, at least as much as you care about yourself.
Thanks brother.
I don’t see how you are getting to manslaughter unless you are arguing imperfect self defense. Without imperfect self defense, this seems pretty cut-and-dry 2nd degree murder. The intent to kill (malice aforethought) is implied from the act of pulling the trigger while aiming at someone.
As for self-defense, that will be tricky and it would be probably good (under normal circumstances) for him to take the stand to testify regarding his subjective state of mind. Given his spotty past record, and statements from other officers from his department, he would get crucified on the stand.
Consider the fact that Police have been being assassinated, even in their vehicles.
I think the likelyhood is some of them are getting spooked. That in conjunction with his cultural disdain for women is what likely led to the shooting.
This is how you start taking apart a nation. Encourage the police to hold the ‘people’ in low regard and encourage the ‘people’ to distrust the police.
This is the first leg of the path towards a Venezuelan type government.
Whether or not this act was “murder” is for a jury to decide. It sure as Hell wasn’t an accident. The gun didn’t just go off. It was, to a certain extent, premeditated. He had to unholster his weapon, flick off the safety, take somewhat of an aim and pull the trigger. In any case, he ought to fry. More is expected of a “cop” than to be so reckless and indifferent. The vaunted psychological, legal and procedural training sure didn’t stick.
Manslaughter implies some kind of careless accident. This was no accident. There are NO accidents with firearms.
You either meant to pull the trigger or you did it negligently. Either one is homicide. The only question here is the degree.
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“Nor am I letting you call it murder”.
Interesting choice of words.
Sudden jihad syndrome. The sight of a pajama-clad woman triggered the Islam in him so he killed her.
The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Murder is perhaps the single most serious criminal offense. ... The term malice aforethought did not necessarily mean that the killer planned or premeditated on the killing, or that he or she felt malice toward the victim.
The definitions vary from state to state. I went ahead and looked up the ones in Minnesota. And argument could be made for murder in the 3rd degree, but it would be a stretch. Looks like manslaughter in the 2nd degree could apply. See 609.205(1). Max sentence 10 years.