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The checkered history and doubtful future of New England’s ‘Alcatraz of the East’
Boston.com ^ | 07/05/17 | Nik DeCosta-Klipa

Posted on 07/05/2017 5:47:26 PM PDT by ex91B10

...The Portsmouth Naval Prison opened in 1908, after the Navy had kept prisoners from the Spanish-American War on the island in a Revolution-era fortification formerly known as Fort Sullivan....

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A break from politics.
1 posted on 07/05/2017 5:47:26 PM PDT by ex91B10
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The Last Detail

Jack Nicholson, Randy Quaid, Carol Kane. Very funny!

2 posted on 07/05/2017 6:06:40 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: ex91B10

Great post of interest, ‘cuz we were just kayaking near the prison and toured the USS Albacore!


3 posted on 07/05/2017 6:22:11 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
I didn't really find the movie funny...anyone who spent time in or around the military during those years will readily recognize what was happening there. It was sad, and somewhat depressing. (to me, at least)

Great movie, though, one of my favorites. Didn't see where it was a comedy, though.

A nugget (for me was this scene, if you remember it) was the three sailors come across a bunch of people doing a chanting circle (I had a rush, remembering how people were into that...it was so Seventies!) they heard from the street, so they went in to check it out. Can you see the unexpected person in the scene? (Hint: It was her first movie role!)


4 posted on 07/05/2017 7:54:56 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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Is that Gilda Radner (sp?) at the far left side?


5 posted on 07/05/2017 7:59:34 PM PDT by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I was a Navy Brat and spent a tour in the USN, and I can tell you, the prison cast a long, long shadow. I know many guys who avoided trouble, because they didn’t want to end up in “Portsmouth Naval Prison, guarded by men with shiny shoes who hated sailors, and hated recalcitrant Marines even more.”


6 posted on 07/05/2017 8:00:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: Bob
Yep! You got it! I was watching the movie again last year, when I did a double-take and went "Hey! That's...that's..." and had to rewind...that HAD to be Gilda Radner...and it was!

Funny. I watch a lot of movies, and have the conceit once in a while that I spot something nobody else has seen, like this scene from "Dr. Strangelove"...when I saw it again a few years ago, I did the double take and rewound, to see this:

LOL, people had known about that for decades, but...I didn't see it until recently!

7 posted on 07/05/2017 8:04:39 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

The USS Albacore is a neat little side trip, eh? Very interesting, quite a small sub, too!


8 posted on 07/05/2017 8:05:57 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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Great movie, though, one of my favorites. Didn’t see where it was a comedy, though.
= = = = = = = = = = = =
It had its moments...

One of the few movies that the word MF’er was used properly THE BAR (not quite quotes)
Bartender....I ain’t serving him because he is black, I ain’t serving him because he ain’t 21 and I ain’t serving you because you are a smart ass.
Now get out of her before I call the Shore Patrol

SHORE PATROL!!! SHORE PATROL!!!
I AM THE MF’n Shore Patrol....

Also in the day room a hungover Badowski is passed out in a chair and the Messenger tells him the CHIEF MAA wants to see him....F the MAA....(also a familiar, proper use of F)

While in New London waiting orders from Sub School I was assigned Base MAA and had to escort a couple of prisoners to Portsmouth....VERY intimidating place...

Looked Medieval


9 posted on 07/05/2017 8:08:37 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Thinking is the hardest work there is-probably why so few people engage in it. H. Ford")
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No, you are right, it had its moments to be sure.

Don’t you agree, though...there is something about that movie that authentically reeks of the military in the early Seventies...hehehehe...”F the MAA!”

And I do love that scene in the bar! Great movie, but I always found it depressing. I had a good time in the Seventies, but people forget how broken down, rusting, and crumbling everything seemed to be. Heck, even I forget. The cars of the early Seventies are a good analogy for the early Seventies.

But...the music was great!


10 posted on 07/05/2017 8:13:40 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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Is the problem in the B52 shot with the shadow of it? Something doesn’t look quite right with that shadow.


11 posted on 07/05/2017 8:19:10 PM PDT by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: rlmorel
I know many guys who avoided trouble, because they didn’t want to end up in “Portsmouth Naval Prison, guarded by men with shiny shoes who hated sailors, and hated recalcitrant Marines even more.”

Undoubtedly one of the purposes of the prison.

12 posted on 07/05/2017 8:20:33 PM PDT by Robwin
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I just figured it was a ‘good’ Navy movie...

3 guys on liberty....

HOWEVER

2 ‘Lifer’ PO1s wouldn’t have been ‘pulling a liberty’ with an SA in 50 or 60 or probably 70s....

Another decent period piece was Cinderella Liberty... a little shallow but the circumstances were all to familiar.

Speaking of comedies...I had watches the Clint Eastwood Sgt Highway movie (title escapes me) and didn’t really like it...

A Marine told me to watch it and think of it as a Comedy, not a Marine movie....He was right, it was good and I had overthought it as a bad Marine movie.....


13 posted on 07/05/2017 8:23:00 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Thinking is the hardest work there is-probably why so few people engage in it. H. Ford")
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To: Robwin

I think it worked, because it was indeed true. My Dad held a desk job for a few years back at the beginning of the sixties, and it was his job to review serious cases that had the potential less than honorable discharges from the Navy and recommend action on them.

He didn’t like that job (though he did his time at it and did it well) and later in life told me some fairly depressing anecdotes about the things that crossed his desk.

And he did say (before I went in the Navy myself) that if you went to Portsmouth Naval Prison, it was hard time, a place to be avoided at all costs.


14 posted on 07/05/2017 8:26:55 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: xrmusn

You must be talking about “Heartbreak Ridge”.

Yes...not a good movie as a war movie, but as a stereotypical Marine cartoon, it sufficed!


15 posted on 07/05/2017 8:28:51 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: Bob

Yes...the footage of the tundra was shot by a rented B-17 that Kubrik used to film it.

Heh, it only appeared for a second or so, and I sat up straight when I saw it!


16 posted on 07/05/2017 8:32:38 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: rlmorel

That be it...thanks....


17 posted on 07/05/2017 8:57:02 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Thinking is the hardest work there is-probably why so few people engage in it. H. Ford")
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To: rlmorel

That be it...thanks....


18 posted on 07/05/2017 8:57:02 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Thinking is the hardest work there is-probably why so few people engage in it. H. Ford")
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The shadow looks like a classic B-17 shadow, I think.


19 posted on 07/05/2017 8:58:47 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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You got it!


20 posted on 07/05/2017 9:22:11 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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