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A second story published by "Oregon Live" regarding the indictment of an FBI agent for lying about the shots he fired at LaVoy Finicum during the "traffic stop" (aka "assassination") January 26th, 2016.

Much in the story with authorities claiming it was still OK to have killed LaVoy Finicum.

The Oregon sheriff whose "shooting team" investigated Finicum's killing said the shots were fired as Finicum exited the truck and he also was upset that the FBI didn't place the accused agent on leave once his lying was revealed to top FBI officials by the sheriff.

By the way, the four other agents with the agent who fired the shots also lied about the shooting but have not been charged with anything.

Sheriff Shane Nelson of Deschutes County (pronounced de-shoots) said he and his investigators revealed Agent W. Joseph Astaria's lying to then Deputy Director now Acting Director of the FBI Andrew McCabe.

1 posted on 06/28/2017 9:29:06 PM PDT by Nextrush
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When you look at the former WH Admin & head of the FBI, it is easy to see the blatant disregard for the rule of law.

Justice for LeVoy.


2 posted on 06/28/2017 9:36:24 PM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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McCabe again!!!!!


3 posted on 06/28/2017 9:36:31 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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The agent's who lied could still face disciplinary charges. It is probable that they are going to have to testify against him. He's going to hate being asked why he tampered with evidence at a shooting scene. They're going to hate having to tell that they saw what he did and that they lied about it.

My sense is that if he had originally written a report the department would have backed him.

6 posted on 06/28/2017 9:41:17 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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Important info from the article:

Astarita’s bullets didn’t hit Finicum, 54. The sheriff’s investigators concluded that Astarita fired twice at the truck, hitting it in the roof and missing on the second shot.

Seconds later, state troopers shot Finicum three times after he stepped away from his pickup and reached for his inner jacket pocket, where police said he had a loaded 9mm handgun. Bullets struck him in the back and one pierced his heart, an autopsy found.

Oregon’s U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams was adamant that the FBI agent’s indictment hasn’t tainted the state troopers’ decision to shoot Finicum.

“Special Agent Astarita’s alleged actions that led to this investigation and indictment do not, in any way, call into question the findings” of Deschutes County investigators into the Oregon State Police officers’ use of deadly force, Williams said. “OSP’s actions were justified and necessary in protecting officer safety.’’


9 posted on 06/28/2017 9:49:04 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Some good news.


10 posted on 06/28/2017 9:49:32 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Another Ruby Ridge? Why is McCabe still an agent? Answer: gutless, feckless republicans at the helm, one of them named Jeff Sessions. Get a backbone stupid party rinos!


11 posted on 06/28/2017 9:51:34 PM PDT by Fungi (Mucor roxii is not a rock band.)
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You don’t destroy evidence and write a false report for a justified shooting. you do it to justify a bad shooting.


12 posted on 06/28/2017 9:54:46 PM PDT by rdcbn
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"The FBI Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) is the counter-terrorism and hostage rescue unit of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The HRT is trained to rescue American citizens and allies who are held by hostile forces, usually terrorist and/or criminal."

So what in the hell was a Hostage Rescue Team doing on that road that night? There was no hostage situation. I also want to know who fired the shots that wounded Ryan Bundy. The passengers, one named Victoria Sharp claimed at least 120 shots were fired at the vehicle. I remember listening to a recording that had been made from inside the vehicle as it was under attack. There was probably a few falsified reports about that as well.

13 posted on 06/28/2017 9:55:46 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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THEY’RE STILL SAYING HE REFUSED TO PUT UP HIS HANDS - not true - IT’S ON THE DANG VIDEO!

AND THE VIDEO SURE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS NOT REACHING FOR A FIREARM, BUT CLUTCHING HIS CHEST AFTER THE FIRST SHOT , WHICH LOOKS TO’VE COME FROM THE BACK-

SO - IS THIS JUST A WHITE WASH DOG AND PONY SHOW?


14 posted on 06/28/2017 9:55:50 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( Christian is as Christian does mt-h)
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Very poorly written article which does not complete thoughts and give enough information. Where was this indictment handed down?


17 posted on 06/28/2017 10:01:05 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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"By the way, the four other agents with the agent who fired the shots also lied about the shooting but have not been charged with anything."

I wonder if they've been given immunity in exchange for their testimony. Despite that, they should still be brought up on departmental charges, and lose their jobs. The FBI may offer them the easy way out too. No charges if they resign.

19 posted on 06/28/2017 10:04:04 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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They [the FBI] are devastated because they are finally, in a small sense, having to answer for the many crimes they have committed. If they think that it is bad now, wait until Judgement Day, when they have to answer to what they did to the children at Waco. In, I believe the book of Saint Matthew, Jesus has something to say about those who harm little children.
20 posted on 06/28/2017 10:05:26 PM PDT by sport
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Just make sure you remember these lies when you have jury duty.....


22 posted on 06/28/2017 10:15:55 PM PDT by glasseye
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“They briefed the FBI’s then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, now acting director.........”

AND there’s the money shot!


23 posted on 06/28/2017 10:17:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Here's part of the backstory:

The FBI Hostage Rescue Team is based out of Quantico, Virginia which is now McCabe territory. That team answers to the HQ FBI that has been taken over by CIA retreads heading up the JTTF and those boys think they can do anything they want.

One has to ask the question why a federal "Hostage Rescue Team" was out in Oregon where there were no hostages to begin with? The Malheur Wildlife Refuge Center was shut down, abandoned for the Winter. There were no workers there, not one, nada.

It was occupied by protestors and no one else. There were zero reasons for the HQ FBI to be involved. The LEOs that had jurisdiction were the Sheriff's Office and the State Troopers. There was no reason for the HQ FBI to be anywhere near that conflict. That FBI Team answers to HQ making them an HQ FBI asset.

The HQ FBI team was there as a component of their JTTF mentality which violates constitutional restrictions on a regular basis along with so many other rights. Just like the NSA and NGA, we have parts of our federal government that have grown accustomed to doing whatever they want.

The only FBI that had jurisdiction to be there were Field Office FBI and that's only because some of the protestors were from out of state. But I don't see that any Field FBI were there. It seems reasonable to say that members under HQ FBI were there to make an example, to ensure dead bodies would act as a deterrent to others in the future. They were there to see that some killings were carried out.

Remember that the Bundy standoff in Nevada had Harry Reid and his two goon sons fuming at the audacity that citizens would show up in large numbers and forcefully demand their rights be respected. When one listens to the audio recording of the BLM lead enforcer, there is a mindset, an attitude, a subgrade conscience, that is arrogant, condescending, reflecting the same attributes of their superiors back in DC. And now we are slowly finding out that the whole Nevada conflict was likely related to a uranium deal brokered by Hillary in concert with Reid.

The other thing that stinks about this is the state troopers shot Levoy before they could clearly see he was drawing a gun and it may be that he was not drawing any gun.

A properly trained LEO does not shoot first and then assess the risk later. Some of them who are stupid may joke and snicker that they can do whatever they want, but they quickly learn that to advance, they must ascribe to a code of conduct. If that's not happening, then there is a problem in law enforcement. They must first have placed their eyes on a gun before pulling the trigger to kill or they must have heard with their ears that a gun would be used against them.

The procedure is to warn a person to hold their hands high over their head or out front where their hands can be seen. Then LEOs will warn if there is a failure to heed the LEO's instructions that there can be shots fired for resisting arrest. None of that was observed to have taken place.

What appears to have happened is that HQ FBI came in and told Troopers they were running the show. Then HQ FBI illegally discharged rifles into the protestor vehicles and lied about it. Members of this JTTF minded FBI should not even have had heir guns drawn. That was strictly the purview of the State Troopers. But it appears the Troopers were operating under the JTTF FBI mindset and were not following state procedures but were instead carrying out a hit ordered by this HQ FBI group.

Then they heard Levoy yell out that he was going to a meeting and he had a right to do that and that if they were going to shoot him, go ahead and shoot him. Levoy was clearly agitated by FBI sniper bullets that missed because he had kids in the car which is why he got out. Then he held his hands in the air and they shot him from two different directions. He lowered his arms either spinning from a shot or he was reaching in to pull a gun. Which it was is unknown. There is audio of all this taking place. Levoy was defiant but he was not threatening to harm. The bottom line is there was not one good reason for this killing, not one.

Knowing the evolution of HQ FBI from CIA into JTTF where JTTF was set up a command structure to federalize State and Local police for the lofty purpose of fighting terrorism, and then seeing this JTTF led by the likes of McCabe who is unquestioningly a Dirty Cop, and watching the interplay of this JTTF with BLM, Reid and his sons, Hillary, and with Obama's acquiescence, it's not surprising that a kill mentality was carried out to make an example. This explains why many are viewing this was a murder.

It is difficult for newcomers to accept that there is a network of bad people in federal government. They must be removed and permanently barred from ever returning in any capacity. The way to see to that is to see they are tried and convicted in a court of law.

24 posted on 06/28/2017 10:19:51 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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A grand jury has indicted an FBI agent for lying and obstructing justice, other agents have lied, and there is conflicting testimony regarding rifle casings.

Considering that, it's plausible that other misdeeds have occurred.

At the time I commented on the position of the pistol in Finicum's coat pocket.

29 posted on 06/28/2017 10:39:21 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Read the book “License to Lie”. The whole justice department is good at it and they are supported by most judges.


31 posted on 06/28/2017 10:41:11 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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Basically the FBI opened fire on civilians without any justification.


35 posted on 06/28/2017 10:51:15 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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38 posted on 06/28/2017 10:59:31 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for ,everythig you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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BACKGROUND INFORMATION
American Standoff Documentary Part 1~ Bundy Hammonds LaVoy Finicum! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeS0rgjspTU

American Standoff Documentary Part 2~ Bundy Hammonds LaVoy Finicum! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UANzVdoZBds


44 posted on 06/28/2017 11:08:18 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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