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1 posted on 06/24/2017 6:32:42 AM PDT by bray
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enough brayin


2 posted on 06/24/2017 6:35:01 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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Now there is a POS article if one were ever written, and Free Republic usually gets a barf alert in the title so people can choose to avoid absolute vomit like this.


3 posted on 06/24/2017 6:36:41 AM PDT by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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Let the free market provide health insurance.

Leave medical charity to private charities.


4 posted on 06/24/2017 6:37:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Obama conditioned us to talk about health care as a “game” where there are “winners” and “losers.”

C’mon! This is America! Can’t we find some win-win scenarios?


7 posted on 06/24/2017 6:41:49 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: bray
If anyone believed it was possible to just drop Obamacare they were naive or fooling themselves.

And yet that is exactly what the GOP claimed - and acted on - while Obama was still president. They sent at least one clean repeal bill to his desk, after passage in both the house and senate, knowing he would veto.

And they claimed they had the right formula, the right answer to getting rid of the monstrosity - just before they stated that they were rolling their sleeves up to come up with the solution they already said they had.

To those who say the current bills are a good start, I ask a simple question: Are the current bills also an appropriate end point? Because it is clear that the GOP does not have the stones to do the hard work of actually getting rid of the federal takeover of health insurance and health care - and the GOP politicians will do and say nothing to reveal this duplicity on their part.

9 posted on 06/24/2017 6:43:28 AM PDT by MortMan (Children are blessings, no matter how God brings them into your life.)
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If 500,000 armed citizens showed uo in DC with a gallows the scumbags who said they would repeal would repeal. Or we try them all and hang the guilty thieves, which is all of them.


13 posted on 06/24/2017 6:47:43 AM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wkikileaks via murdered ex-UK Amb, murdered he was, cover up it is)
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Repeal only


14 posted on 06/24/2017 6:48:20 AM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wkikileaks via murdered ex-UK Amb, murdered he was, cover up it is)
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One more thought. My family and I pay around $1800.00 a month for a high-deductible ($6500/13000) private (non-exchange) policy. That means that we have to shell out $28100.00 over the year before a single individual covered by the policy gets any significant monetary relief.

We have coverage galore, but cannot make use of it until we have spent nearly $30K out of pocket.

And we are the lucky ones because we can pay for it.


15 posted on 06/24/2017 6:49:19 AM PDT by MortMan (Children are blessings, no matter how God brings them into your life.)
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Good piece, Bray.
Reality sucks but we must face it.
No one is going to fully repeal Obamacare all at once. Actually it would be inhumane to do so.
The gov’t forced people onto the Obamacare plank. You can’t suddenly saw off the plank and drop the people into the abyss.

We need to pass this bill and incrementally move people off the gov’t plank.


20 posted on 06/24/2017 6:58:12 AM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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Back when people worked, medical insurance wasn’t a problem.

Now that America is saddled with a huge, unproductive welfare class, and with good paying, stable jobs offering medical benefits fast disappearing, medical insurance is a major problem.

Government medical “insurance” is coming whether you like it or not - and it’s going to be awful. As in near Third World awful. Politicians and the wealthy exempted of course.

Sooner or later this 20 Trillion Dollar-and-rising debt House of Cards is going to collapse.


22 posted on 06/24/2017 7:03:27 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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I've got a GREAT idea.

Let's go back to what we had BEFORE ovomitcare.

24 posted on 06/24/2017 7:16:28 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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“The right solution for HC is to repeal it and let the millions go without insurance when they find they do not qualify unless being on a group plan or are left to fend for themselves. These would be the victims of Obamacare even though it would be blamed on the heartless Trump. “

With careful planning and narrative, it can be blamed on Obamacare. Win win. The free-market is restored and the blamed lies on Obamacare.


29 posted on 06/24/2017 8:47:57 AM PDT by sagar
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Franchised clinics (along the lines of Houston area Kelsey-Seybold), where you would “join” and pay a monthly “member fee” for coverage would go a long way to cutting medical costs....


31 posted on 06/24/2017 9:01:07 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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“...make America free again.”

Man, do I ever wish the above was Trump’s slogan. And his driving motivation.

But it’s not. Unfortunately, achieving ‘great’ again is entirely a subjective measure.

Whereas freedom can be measured objectively.

You make a solid case for your position and a great read, as usual. But I disagree somewhat.

Trump has been fantastic in many aspects of his young administration. But he has been terrible as far as leadership in respect to the legislative agenda and to advocacy for freedom generally. Granted, the party is not better and large factions are worse.

And, hell no, I don’t cut the prez slack on legislative matters just because he’s the executive. That IS the reason he’s more to blame for bad legislation. He is the final decider, the signer. Would he, as a savvy corporate exec, just sign things determining the well-being of his company without doing everything in his substantial power to affect what goes into the contract before he clicks his pen?

Trump is no Reagan in this sense. Settling for half-a-loaf after battling hard against the real enemy party for the whole is one thing. Tweeting and pearl-clutching intra-party hissy fits are not real fighting. Besides, Trump never battled for the whole loaf - freedom from fed involvement - when it comes to health care.

Trump has never even hungered for the whole loaf. Just the opposite, he likes fed level entitlements. He campaigned on preserving the awful programs we had before Obamacare and he now campaigns in favor of seemingly any similar garbage rolling down from the Republican Hill.

Achieving half-a-loaf looks exactly like exposing half-a-spine to me when the context is our party owning the Hill, the WH, the SC, the govs, the statehouses, etc.

Knowing well that political winds blow and that sentiment is a swinger, it would be quite a gamble to bet Freedom’s farm that the party will have MORE dominance later - after creating more of what they were elected to rid.

We are not winning half of anything when the supposed good party establishes an historically bad precedent by becoming the second party to make it a policy to buy votes with entitlements.

Bragging rights for 2018, if Logic can contort to calling it that, is absolutely not sufficient reason to sell the elephant’s soul. I had hoped and have advocated for Trump to go Old Testament on DC. But I should have been more specific. I did not wish to witness him salivating to share a fateful bowl of pottage with speaker Paul. But I’ve seen it. Thank the Father in heaven the Freedom Caucus flipped the table before they supped. I pray for either Freedom or flippage this time as well.

And, no, getting the feds out of HC does NOT mean anybody needs to go cold turkey on socialism - that’s what states are for, dagnabbit!

Virtually nobody on our side is talking about the blessing of God-giving freedoms and their protection via federalism. Despite being the most opportune juncture in history to do so because of the one party dominance not only across the three branches but also across the federated levels.

Which reminds me, where the hell is Jason Lewis on these things? He wrote the book on this stuff, literally (Power Divided is Power Checked), and is now in Congress from MN. You might have heard him sub for Rush in the past. This guy essentially invented the TEA party, or at least he was responsible for a similar movement/rallies in MN long before the TEA people. I’ve not heard a peep from him in the news. He also had his own radio shows over the years. I’d hoped he’d be fighting quite vocally for Freedom.


35 posted on 06/24/2017 1:24:21 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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