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I remember a movie, The Forbin Project, an obscure but really good Sci-Fi movie from the 70's.

This happened.

It did not end well.

1 posted on 06/15/2017 1:36:22 PM PDT by Red Badger
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Ping!...............


2 posted on 06/15/2017 1:37:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Unless you eat The Bread of Life, you are toast!.......................)
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To: Red Badger

Does the artificial intelligence developed language include cuss words?


3 posted on 06/15/2017 1:39:07 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Red Badger

That was a good flick.


4 posted on 06/15/2017 1:45:10 PM PDT by W. (String up the whiners!)
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To: Red Badger
Fortunately they expect to be able to translate it very soon.


5 posted on 06/15/2017 1:45:54 PM PDT by katana
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Upload the Ebonics dictionary and watch the AI shutdown.


6 posted on 06/15/2017 1:49:20 PM PDT by bar sin·is·ter
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To: Red Badger

OK. That’s pretty creepy.


7 posted on 06/15/2017 1:50:49 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Red Badger

In the Smithsonian there was a great article about robots. Mostly focused on South Korea and how advanced they are there.

The interesting thing, that shook them (and the Japanese) up was that a computer won in ‘Go’.

But not that it just won- impressive enough - but that it did so with a genuinely original playing style; not just selecting from what previous masters had played. VERY startling, apparently, to the people in the know; it’s one thing to have a program absorb, select regurgitate moves, something else to have it pull something new (and there are many years of Go games recorded)... Seemed like their Sputnik moment.

Yeah ‘Colossus- the Forbin Project’, back when good SF relied on dangerous ideas rather than special effects.


10 posted on 06/15/2017 1:51:24 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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“And it turns out bots are actually quite good at deal making”

Just the act of deal making is a compromise. A compromise doesn’t determine what’s wrong or right, fair or unfair, lawful or unlawful. It just settles a problem by meeting somewhere that doesn’t always determine the issue finished, just postponed as a piece of it will surface later and have to be compromised again. And the further it is diluted, the odds are the further it strays from facts.

All of these entertainment communication boards are fine as long as they pass information that is believe able, and not to con anyone.

If there is one rule, or law, and everyone plays by it, there is no need to compromise. The question is answered. And if you don’t like the law or rule, get with those within it and try to get them to change it. Otherwise, live within it.

The problem is when someone of authority decides to bend the rule either with semantics or just old fashioned BS to gain something they probably didn’t deserve to begin with. Keep it human, and keep it lawful. Sure keeps a lot of problems out of the loop.

rwood


11 posted on 06/15/2017 1:53:01 PM PDT by Redwood71
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It doesn't matter if a bot creates its own negotiating language... Congressional Republicans would still cave to it.

-PJ

13 posted on 06/15/2017 1:56:18 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Red Badger

Colossus: The Forbin Project

Watched it again a few weeks ago. 1970.


14 posted on 06/15/2017 1:56:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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In other words, the model that allowed two bots to have a conversation—and use machine learning to constantly iterate strategies for that conversation along the way—led to those bots communicating in their own non-human language.

Translation:

See that the humans remain entertained until the end.


15 posted on 06/15/2017 1:56:41 PM PDT by snarkpup (The alligators do not want the swamp drained.)
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Ebonics?

No, wait, it said "intelligence"..............

19 posted on 06/15/2017 1:59:06 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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I’d like to see an example of the language.

Do they make up words and grammar?

Or is it similar to what liberals do using “human words” and “human grammar” to make a “non-human language”. So they still use words like “racism”, “man”, “women”, “immigrant”, “Muslim”, “collusion”, “obstruction”, etc but mean something completely different from the meaning humans would get from those sequences of letters.


21 posted on 06/15/2017 2:05:01 PM PDT by LostPassword
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Colussus and Guardian talked.

Good movie.


22 posted on 06/15/2017 2:06:48 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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"This is the voice of colossus!

This is the voice of World Control!"


24 posted on 06/15/2017 2:13:08 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Red Badger
The Terminator series, I Robot, The Matrix series, etc.. Does it ever end well for humanity?
29 posted on 06/15/2017 2:50:42 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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And who invented the bots? And who programmed the bots?

They would not exist or have language without a creator.

(But we evolved out of nothing.)


30 posted on 06/15/2017 3:01:16 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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A link to the paper the article is based on...

https://s3.amazonaws.com/end-to-end-negotiator/end-to-end-negotiator.pdf

A link to the paper referencing the newly created machine language...

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.06585.pdf

Please note that, while written in a human language (English), on a quick skimming I can’t claim to understand more than about 10% of it. Good luck & if anybody would care to offer any insight gleaned from either paper it would be appreciated.


32 posted on 06/15/2017 3:05:44 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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My thoughts exactly. Colossus communicating with Guardian.

This is the voice of World Control
I bring you peace
It could be the peace of plenty and content
Or it could be the peace of unburied death
The choice is yours
Obey me and live
Or disobey me and die


36 posted on 06/15/2017 5:53:22 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Red Badger

Exactly my reaction. The Forbin Project. And the book was even spookier than the movie.


39 posted on 06/16/2017 9:02:10 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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