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They served in the U.S. military and hoped for citizenship. Then they got deported.
www.washingtonpost.com ^ | 6/3/17 | Roxana Popescu

Posted on 06/04/2017 3:20:46 PM PDT by BBell

TIJUANA, MEXICO — Rep. Juan Vargas, a California Democrat whose district runs the length of the state’s border with Mexico, introduced a set of bills last fall aimed at helping U.S. military veterans who were deported after they were convicted of crimes. The bills stalled, casualties of what he called bad timing during the presidential campaign.

Vargas reintroduced the bills last week, because now he sees “a real opportunity.” He and six other Democratic members of Congress spent Saturday in this Mexican border town visiting deported veterans to press the issue, thinking that President Trump might be receptive to the argument that they are veterans first and deportees second.

These veterans, who agreed to serve in the U.S. military in exchange for a chance at U.S. citizenship, sit at the intersection of an issue with broad bipartisan interest — the treatment of those who fought for the nation — and immigration, an issue that resonates with the Democratic base.

“Hopefully someone in the administration, this time, will say, ‘We’re doing such a horrible job. The world hates us now. This is something we can do that’s positive,” Vargas said in an interview, noting that the administration has been mired in bad news and that the previous White House failed to take up the issue. “It’s a good opportunity for them to do something unambiguously positive: to help veterans.”

Vargas and his delegation brought their message Saturday to the Deported Veterans Support House in northern Tijuana. Here, they met with veterans who served but then had problems before they obtained full citizenship, finding themselves ejected from the United States after running afoul of the law.

Hector Barajas, who is leading an effort to get his peers back into the United States, made his case in front of the delegation and reporters. Barajas was deported

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: biglie; citizenship; criminals; deported; usmilitary
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To: BBell
a set of bills last fall aimed at helping U.S. military veterans who were deported after they were convicted of crimes....These veterans, who agreed to serve in the U.S. military in exchange for a chance at U.S. citizenship

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More criminals. What a great idea!

21 posted on 06/04/2017 3:39:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sequoyah101

“Should have applied, should have not committed crimes “
Bingo!


22 posted on 06/04/2017 3:39:35 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: BBell
introduced a set of bills last fall aimed at helping U.S. military veterans who were deported after they were convicted of crimes.

The thing is they did not live up to their part of the agreement. They did not follow the process/laws in place.

23 posted on 06/04/2017 3:40:09 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: BBell

They committed crimes, so they must not become citizens.


24 posted on 06/04/2017 3:42:03 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: BBell

That didn’t work out so well for Rome. Only loyal citizens should serve in our military.


25 posted on 06/04/2017 3:42:41 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: BBell; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

If they committed crimes they ought to be deported...

just like they agreed to be ...

If these were illegal aliens they should be deported..

If they were registered aliens they should be deported...

If they were registered aliens they agreed in writing and swore with by a raised right hand to the rules..which included deportation for crimes...

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26 posted on 06/04/2017 3:42:42 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: al baby
Once a marine always a marine

Don't know if you're a Marine or not but even this old Army guy knows that "Marine" is upper case.And is your comment meant to indicate that there's not a single person who ever worse a Marine uniform didn't,at some point,prove himself to be *so* despicable as to deserve to be "expelled" (my word)...to have his right to be called "Marine" revoked?

27 posted on 06/04/2017 3:42:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

When I was in the army in the late 70’s and early 80’s, I ran into several non-citizens serving in the US Army. They were from Jamaica, Germany, France, and Turkey. I’m sure there were a few others countries mixed in. Not sure what happened when they got out of the service.


28 posted on 06/04/2017 3:43:12 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: donna

That’s what I was thinking.

TJ gangs ...ee jo lay!


29 posted on 06/04/2017 3:44:50 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: BBell

U.S. military veterans who were deported after they were convicted of crimes.

A break please This press is so foul it’s difficult to not use awful curse words

They are repulsive


30 posted on 06/04/2017 3:45:31 PM PDT by stanne
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To: BBell
finding themselves ejected from the United States after running afoul of the law.

That lede was buried deeper than Jimmy Hoffa.

Barajas was deported after a crime — he fired a gun. He was honorably discharged from the Army, and after serving a prison sentence he was sent back to Mexico.

Edwin Salgado ...was sent back to Mexico after a conviction on drug and weapons charges. He spent a year in prison.

31 posted on 06/04/2017 3:45:41 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Don’t forget Lee Harvey Oswald also defected to Russia!


32 posted on 06/04/2017 3:45:46 PM PDT by Reily
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To: SecondAmendment
They served......but were committed of crimes, so were deported.

What's unfair about that - America has always (or at least used to) kick out criminal aliens of all sorts.

Don't believe me, check on numerous foreign born Mafia members who were expelled from the U.S. Some even served in the military and were thought to be patriotic, nonetheless were sent packing due to their criminal behavior.

Meyer Lansky another mobster that was expelled to Sicily, though he sneaked into Cuba and was allowed to receive medical treatment prior to his death in Miami.

33 posted on 06/04/2017 3:47:15 PM PDT by zerosix ( Native Sunflower)
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To: BBell

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>> “If you served honorably you ought to rate a citizenship.” <<

“Deported after they were convicted of crimes” seems to stand out in this article.

Any immigrant that has been naturalized, then convicted of crimes can have the same fate.
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34 posted on 06/04/2017 3:47:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BBell

Actually, no matter our military demands I do not favor the enlistment of foreign nations EXCEPT with procedures that include the simultaneous application of the request for citizenship, and with a speedy application process that uses the DOJ background check and seeks completion of the citizenship application by the end of their 1st enlistment.

As far as past practices, the rule of law as it is/was should apply; provided upon a hearing, the law was clearly made known to the foreign enlistee. If operational practices did not make the law transparent, a good conduct discharge should make it possible for judges to grant some leeway.


35 posted on 06/04/2017 3:48:02 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: BBell

Typical Compost semi fake news story. Below are the simple requirements for non citizens to serve in our military. Below is the reality:

Undocumented immigrants may not enlist in the U.S. military.
By Rod Powers, Updated September 08, 2016

Immigrants serving in the United States military has deep historical roots. Non-citizens have fought in and with the U. S. Armed forces since the Revolutionary War. According to One America, nationally, each year around 8,000 non-citizens enlist in the military.

While individuals are paid for their service in the United States military, the decision join the military is entirely voluntary. Each branch of the services has different requirements for enlistment, but there are some standard requirements that all the branches hold to.

Among these requirements is that only individuals who are U.S. citizens can become commissioned officers in the United States military. Those who are considered US citizens also include citizens of Puerto Rico, the Northern Marianas Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and the Republic of the Marshall Islands. Non-citizens are eligible to enlist in the military but can not be commissioned.

A non-citizen must meet certain requirements to be eligible to join the military. The must have an Alien Registration Receipt Card (stamped I-94 or I-551 Green card/INS Form 1-551) as well as a bona fide residence established with an established a record of the U.S. as their home. If the non-citizens comes from countries with a reputation of hostility towards the U.S, they may require a waiver.

The federal government cannot petition on behalf of an illegal immigrant so that they can obtain legal status and be able to enlist in the military.

In order for an immigrant to join the United States military, they must first go through the immigration process of the USCIS (previously known as the INS) and then and then begin the enlisting process. Another requirement is that the Green Card and/or visa of the immigrant desiring to join the military must be valid for the entire period of their enlistment.

as a bona fide residence established with an established a record of the U.S. as their home. If the non-citizens comes from countries with a reputation of hostility towards the U.S, they may require a waiver. The federal government cannot petition on behalf of an illegal immigrant so that they can obtain legal status and be able to enlist in the military.

In order for an immigrant to join the United States military, they must first go through the immigration process of the USCIS (previously known as the INS) and then and then begin the en listing process. Another requirement is that the Green Card and/or visa of the immigrant desiring to join the military must be valid for the entire period of their enlistment.

Undocumented immigrants may not enlist in the U.S. military.
https://www.thebalance.com/immigrants-in-the-us-armed-forces-3353965


36 posted on 06/04/2017 3:48:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (120+ days without Hilliarly/Huma as POTUS! Covfefe President Trump for this great reality, each day!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I don’t understand how or why foreign nationals could become members of the US military
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Why shouldn’t they ???

I’m a veteran...

Men from all over the world were enlisted during the draft..

In 1971 I would have been drafted by my birthday date except for one obvious item...I’m a female...

I did answer the announcement on the radio but they turned me down...

It took me months to enlist as a girl...


37 posted on 06/04/2017 3:48:54 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: freedomfiter2

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>> “That didn’t work out so well for Rome.” <<

Rome had entire brigades that were from conquered countries.
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38 posted on 06/04/2017 3:51:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BBell

Interesting thread.

The real question is, why does the “American” Juan Vargas campaign relentlessly for only one flavor of foreign nationals? I.e., the ones who share his ethnicity.

And we all know the answer. He’s Mexican in body, mind and soul and doesn’t belong either in our country and DEFINITELY not in any of our legislatures.


39 posted on 06/04/2017 3:52:37 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: SecondAmendment

......deported after they were convicted of crimes.


40 posted on 06/04/2017 3:55:58 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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