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To: SkyDancer

May I point out that a monkey pounding keys on a typewriter randomly given infinite time will type out the complete works of Shakespeare.

Naah, never mind. I would not expect you to understand any of the quantum universe or it’s implications. BTW, in an infinite number of universes that is how Buicks are made.


17 posted on 06/01/2017 6:36:17 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
May I point out that a monkey pounding keys on a typewriter randomly given infinite time will type out the complete works of Shakespeare.

Let's do the math ...

My keyboard has 104 keys ... how many characters are in the complete works of WS? Google it ... its 3,695,990 characters ... but (1/104) raised to the 3,695,990 power is not even computable. Lets start real small.

Let's start with the phrase "To be or not to be, that is the question?" ...

With 104 keys any random key has a (1/104) chance of being struck. Put the correct ones in order and your probability of the phrase is (1/104)^41 = 2.0E-83 ... ignoring the shift key for the capital and the question mark.

Lets say your monkey is a speed typist and can randomly type 41 characters in 1 second.

What is the probability of him typing the phrase in a hundred TRILLION years?

86400(sec/day)*365(days/year)*100E12(years) = 3.15E21 ... total probability 2.0E-83 * 3.15E21 = 6.31E-62

How about we put a monkey on every square foot of the planet each going at it ... surface area of the earth is 5.49E15 ft^2 ...

total probability = 6.31E-62 * 5.49E15 = 3.46E-46

And this is just the phrase ...

58 posted on 06/01/2017 8:51:11 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

[[BTW, in an infinite number of universes that is how Buicks are made.]]

Ah perhaps, but not how corvettes, cadillacs, toyotas, etc etc etc are all made in all the same universe and on the same planet- the odds are way beyond the upperl imits of probability

The human species alone woudl have had to defy the upper probability limits not just one or two times, but billions of times as it was ‘evolving’ down through the ages in a relatively short amount of time


72 posted on 06/01/2017 10:35:52 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

No, your example is full of simple error- time alone would ruin/destroy both the the animal, the typewriter ( where did that come from) and the previous work, not even counting on the fact that someone with higher intelligence provided the typewriter, paper and etc to the chimp in the first place. You bought the farm on that one, but don’t let anyone tell you otherwise though.

Let’s say that time and elements notwithstanding, your chimp pounds the keys forever- all you would get is random series of letters continuing on and on. You would need some millions of random occurrences strung together w/o error in one series. So a million million chances to be wrong, only one chance to get it(all) right. You still “believe” that?

The fact that the bard had intent and intelligence to produce multiple separate works of literature made it so, not that he was a moronic chimp pounding away randomly for some time. The comparison is fraud.

Regards


91 posted on 06/02/2017 5:32:13 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

No, your example is full of simple error- time alone would ruin/destroy both the the animal, the typewriter ( where did that come from) and the previous work, not even counting on the fact that someone with higher intelligence provided the typewriter, paper and etc to the chimp in the first place. You bought the farm on that one, but don’t let anyone tell you otherwise though.

Let’s say that time and elements notwithstanding, your chimp pounds the keys forever- all you would get is random series of letters continuing on and on. You would need some millions of random occurrences strung together w/o error in one series. So a million million chances to be wrong, only one chance to get it(all) right. You still “believe” that?

The fact that the bard had intent and intelligence to produce multiple separate works of literature made it so, not that he was a moronic chimp pounding away randomly for some time. The comparison is fraud.

Regards


92 posted on 06/02/2017 5:32:19 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
May I point out that a monkey pounding keys on a typewriter randomly given infinite time will type out the complete works of Shakespeare.

Except that you don't have infinite time or infinite monkeys. If you decide every atom in the universe is a monkey/typewriter combination and use the age of the universe, you get...nothing.

Information does not arise from random processes, and the information in the simplest organism is vastly more complicated than Shakespeare's works. If life (or even the universe itself) is a result of random chance, it isn't a cosmic miracle, it is a series of cosmic miracles, piled one after the other in a sequence that boggles the imagination.

206 posted on 06/04/2017 8:03:03 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

The multiverse faith... No proof... So it is faith in science...

But yet even in that faith... it can’t explain where all this matter came from... It just was...


213 posted on 06/05/2017 4:14:59 AM PDT by PigRigger
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