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The real reasons for Marvel Comics' woes
MSN / The Atlantic ^
| May 24, 2017
Posted on 05/24/2017 3:26:35 PM PDT by SMGFan
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:26:35 PM PDT
by
SMGFan
To: SMGFan
Hello?
You DO KNOW that the USA is more than the upper West Side ( of NYC) and LA, don’t you?
DON’T YOU?? You do know it’s a business—RIGHT??
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:32:24 PM PDT
by
Flintlock
(The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
To: SMGFan
people were turning their nose up against....
That ought to win over folk! :)
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:32:27 PM PDT
by
dp0622
(The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
To: SMGFan
I takes hard work to be as stupid as the people at Marvel Comics. I’m sure they are all tuckered out from exertion.
To: SMGFan
The problem I see with “comics” is that they aren’t comics any longer...
They are now for dull minded adults, who look for the sexy super duper hero...
Whatever happened to Tom & Jerry, Heckle & Jeckle, Nancy and Sluggo, Donald Duck???
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:33:14 PM PDT
by
JBW1949
(I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
To: All
Comics WERE for kids.......
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:34:29 PM PDT
by
JBW1949
(I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
To: SMGFan
I really enjoyed “Luke Cage” on Netflix.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:34:36 PM PDT
by
Organic Panic
(Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
To: SMGFan
"... anything that was not a core Marvel character, people were turning their nose up against.
People tend to oppose rewriting or modernizing 'classics' -- whether classic comic characters or Shakespearean classics.
Classics are considered 'classics' for a reason.
PC-ing characters either by gender or race tend to lessen the 'classic' value of any piece of literature.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:37:23 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: WashingtonSource
I[t] takes hard work to be as stupid as the people at Marvel Comics.
Not really. They can be found in most editorial offices -- print and video/tv.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:39:43 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: SMGFan
What we heard was that people didnt want any more diversity, David Gabriel, the companys senior vice president of sales and marketing, told an interviewer at the summit. They didnt want female characters out there. Thats what we heard, whether we believe that or not ... We saw the sales of any character that was diverse, any character that was new, our female characters, anything that was not a core Marvel character, people were turning their nose up against.
There's only a market for a few superstar superheroes.
Keep expanding the roster and repeating yourself and people lose interest.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:40:26 PM PDT
by
x
To: JBW1949
When I read the whole article, the part that stuck out for me is that Marvel and DC are owned by "large conglomerates". The recent history indicates that the comic books themselves were bought out so the buyer would have the movie rights, and the comic book experiments are intended to measure possible audience interest in some movie idea.
With all of that, it would be hard to build reader loyalty anyway, especially if the reader demographic is young males looking for a hero who always gets the girl. That doesn't sound like what the producers are producing....
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:40:57 PM PDT
by
Bernard
(The Road To Hell Is Not Paved With Good Results)
To: JBW1949
Whatever happened to Tom & Jerry, Heckle & Jeckle, Nancy and Sluggo, Donald Duck???
Video killed the comic book star.
Superman and Batman benefited from TV and movies and special effects and marketing.
Not much you could really do with Nancy and Sluggo on video.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:42:32 PM PDT
by
x
To: SMGFan
The big problem is that’s not where the interesting stuff is happening. Used to be Marvel and DC innovated the industry. Now Image and IDW innovate. I got back into the hobby a few years ago but I don’t get anything from the Big 2. DC “experimental” subsection Vertigo has gotten me with a couple, that’s about as close as I’ve come to getting anything from them. I read about what’s going on in the trades, and they’re just not drawing me in. You can pick up any random book from Image or IDW and be impressed, it might not be a story you’ll want to follow but you can quickly tell it’s interesting and exploring new territory. Marvel and DC just don’t do that anymore.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:44:42 PM PDT
by
discostu
(You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
To: SMGFan
You just cant fix stupid.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:47:40 PM PDT
by
HANG THE EXPENSE
(Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
To: SMGFan
When the Green Hornet, “came out” I tuned out.
I have not given a nickel to a Marvel product in many years.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:47:45 PM PDT
by
outofsalt
( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
To: x
True, but most of those sales were to kids 5-10 years old...
Did Nickelodeon and Disney Channel take all that away from the little kids???
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:48:30 PM PDT
by
JBW1949
(I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
To: TomGuy
"People tend to oppose rewriting or modernizing 'classics'" I know I'm not looking forward to a modern Moby Dick!
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:49:34 PM PDT
by
outofsalt
( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
To: SMGFan
Even in admitting wrong, they get it wrong.
I don’t think anyone gives a rat if Marvel concocts a new superhero who is female or whatever shade of skin or blue.
What people do *not* want is SJW propaganda shoved at them under cover of ‘let’s make a diverse superhero’ or ‘let’s reimagine an existing superhero.’
Too bad for them they’ve hired writers and editors who cannot conceptualize anything other than leftist fantasy = doubleplusgood, everything else = haram.
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:50:10 PM PDT
by
No.6
To: SMGFan
Marvel’s heroes weren’t broken, so they decided to fix them.
Some fictional properties remain popular and profitable for many decades (hi there Kal-El) because the core concept is long-lived if not timeless. Destroy the core, and you destroy your property.
I believe DC Comics recently learned this lesson and is taking steps to remedy the problem (I’m speculating; I haven’t bought new comics for a decade now but still try to keep up with things).
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:50:17 PM PDT
by
LostInBayport
(When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
To: SMGFan
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posted on
05/24/2017 3:51:31 PM PDT
by
JoeProBono
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