Posted on 05/06/2017 9:58:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Investigators who nicknamed the street mixture have detected it or recorded overdoses blamed on it in Alabama, Georgia and Ohio. The drug looks like concrete mix and varies in consistency from a hard, chunky material to a fine powder.
The substance is a combination of several opioids blamed for thousands of fatal overdoses nationally, including heroin, fentanyl, carfentanil — sometimes used to tranquilize large animals like elephants — and a synthetic opioid called U-47700.
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Last year, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration listed U-47700 in the category of the most dangerous drugs it regulates, saying it was associated with dozens of fatalities, mostly in New York and North Carolina. Some of the pills taken from Prince's estate after the musician's overdose death last year contained U-47700.
Gray death has a much higher potency than heroin, according to a bulletin issued by the Gulf Coast High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area. Users inject, swallow, smoke or snort it.
Georgia's investigation bureau has received 50 overdose cases in the past three months involving gray death, most from the Atlanta area, said spokeswoman Nelly Miles.
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In Ohio, the coroner's office serving the Cincinnati area says a similar compound has been coming in for months. The Ohio attorney general's office has analyzed eight samples matching the gray death mixture from around the state.
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I correctly addressed your post.
You threw out an idiotic revisionist history that insinuated prohibition caused people who drink to move to hard liquor.
No screwier bullsh!t has ever been posted on this forum regarding intoxicating substance use. Indeed, before the railroads made inroads to compete with wagon freight hauling hard liquor was far more common than beer or wine across most of the continent.
Are you literate to any degree at all? Have you never read books written in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries?
Make no mistake, the point I made might have been mocking your post, but that is not because I “didn’t understand” your post. It is because the very foundation of your post was a ridiculous falacy.
I don’t think too many FReepers are idiotic drug users.
Good riddance to rubbish. The weak, feeble, and stupid can off themselves however they want, just do it without taking out someone else.
No screwier bullsh!t has ever been posted on this forum regarding intoxicating substance use.
"Before Prohibition, Americans spent roughly equal amounts on beer and spirits.[11] However, during Prohibition virtually all production, and therefore consumption, was of distilled spirits and fortified wines. Beer became relatively more expensive because of its bulk, and it might have disappeared altogether except for homemade beer and near beer, which could be converted into real beer.[12] Figure 2 shows that the underground economy swiftly moved from the production of beer to the production of the more potent form of alcohol, spirits.[13]" - https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa157.pdf
Total Expenditure on Distilled Spirts as a Percentage of Total Alcohol Sales (1890-1960)
Source: Clark Warburton, The Economic Result of Prohibition (New York: Columbia University Press, 1932), pp. 114- 15; and Licensed Beverage Industry, Facts about the Licensed Beverage Industry (New York: LBI, 1961), pp. 54-55.
I had an acquaintance who was an alcoholic.
She SWORE up and down that she wasn't and that she could control her drinking.
And everyone knew the true.
I returned a phone call one night and she was drunker than a skunk and didn't even remember the next day that she had talked to me.
I finally read her the riot act and told her flat out that she was an alcoholic and could not control her drinking and it was destroying her.
It did eventually. I'm convinced that was her cause of death even though the coroner had a different one listed.
She was in such denial that I lost all sympathy for her and would not help her any more. Since she wasn't interested in helping herself, I wasn't going to waste my time trying either.
Then HOMESCHOOL him.
Oxycodone/oxycontin
Took out a relative of mine and a friend's brother.
Yes there are many. ODs and suicides.
You are a real piece of work. Some of us have loved ones that you wish would just off themselves. Thank you very much for your judgement. I hope this never touches your life but some of us have had to deal with it through no choice of our own.
Neither was a suicide.
But both cases were considered *accidental death due to overdose.*
Suppressed the breathing too much.
“Some of us have loved ones that you wish would just off themselves.”
So? They are too stupid to live. Why save them from themselves?
You are reprehensible. I hope you never have a child that breaks your heart. You probably won’t because you don’t appear to have a heart let alone common decency. Do not reply to me again
“She was in such denial that I lost all sympathy for her and would not help her any more. Since she wasn’t interested in helping herself, I wasn’t going to waste my time trying either.”
I wish most people would come to that logical conclusion instead of becoming emotional and wanting more taxpayers’ money into liberal programs. Now, they think the addicts have preexisting conditions. More like preexisting stupidity.
While it’s easy to give up on a neighbor it’s not so easy to give up on a family member let alone a child. I’m not advocating for taxpayer $ I am against Obamacare in all forms. The point is addiction destroys all kinds of lives not just the addicts
The sooner they’re gone, the less they cost society. And don’t forget, the biggest cost to society isn’t “saving” them, but the heartaches, headaches, and collateral damage they do to all and sundry to support their habits.
As for me, in my 71 years, I’ve had more sense than to get involved with, let alone had my life devastated by, substance abuse.
OTOH, I have first hand dealt with both abusers and their families, who most often act as enablers, while working in both county & private hospitals, treating both them, and their innocent victims. I’ve also had to deal with abusers around my periphery: been burgled, pilfered, vandalized, threatened, etc; also had dealer neighbors authorities couldn’t seem to do anything about. I was also instrumental in getting a nurse caught diverting patient drugs to feed her own habit, indiscriminately endangering her patients mainly due to her impairment on-shift, while unconcerned about their suffering.
Not an ounce of sympathy, any more than for new smokers: the data, the warnings, the education, and the enforcement has been in place (except for smokers “just 50-60 years”; I’m a long since former smoker) for many decades longer than I’ve been alive.
“it’s not so easy to give up on a family member let alone a child.”
Is anyone telling you to? You within full rights to raise your child. Properly.
“I’m not advocating for taxpayer $ I am against Obamacare in all forms. “
You may not be, but the “addicts need help” crowd is demanding taxpayers’ money to do so.
“The point is addiction destroys all kinds of lives not just the addicts”
The solution - personal responsibility - is seen as hostile by pro-addicts.
I have lived it personally in family members as well as treated addicts. While I don’t excuse the behavior or have sympathy for it I have a great deal of empathy for those family members who have been devastated by their loved ones addiction.
As far as enabling I don’t think most people know how hard it is and how long it takes to completely stop Telling a child to leave your home is the hardest thing I thought I would ever have to do. Wrong. Saying no to help when they call cold hungry and homeless is even harder. I was one of those who thought it would be easy to not enable and of course I would never have one of those kids so I understand those who judge so easily. Circumstances have a way of humbling you. I now have deep sympathy for what one addict can do to the lives of all those who love them.
“I have lived it personally in family members as well as treated addicts. “
You don’t happen to earn income from the subsidized treatment of addicts, do you? Things like that could cloud judgment.
Addicts do need help. Unfortunately until they realize that and willingly participate in their care all help is futile. I see no problem with treating an addict that truly wants to stop. And this is not limited to addicts by the way. I have to treat and spend my tax $ on people with emphysema that Continue to smoke, people with heart disease who continue to eat poorly and not exercise, and people with diabetes who continue to eat what they want and gain weight. Their disease process is just more socially acceptable.
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