Posted on 05/04/2017 6:25:08 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
At Kent State University, 100 National Guardsmen fire their rifles into a group of students, killing four and wounding 11. This incident occurred in the aftermath of President Richard Nixon’s April 30 announcement that U.S. and South Vietnamese forces had been ordered to execute an “incursion” into Cambodia to destroy North Vietnamese bases there. In protest, a wave of demonstrations and disturbances erupted on college campuses across the country.
At Kent State University in Ohio, student protesters torched the ROTC building on campus and Ohio Governor James Rhodes responded by calling on the National Guard to restore order. Under harassment from the demonstrators, the Guardsmen fired into the crowd, killing four and wounding 11. The Guardsmen were later brought to trial for the shootings, but found not guilty.
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I walked the area where the shootings took place with everything marked out. The nearest person hit with a bullet was about 100 feet away, the nearest person killed was 300 feet away and two were minding her own business on the other side of campus, killed by stray bullets. The soldiers fired on their own and the CO was suicidally brave, stepping in front of the soldiers to order them to stop firing while they were still firing. As mentioned they were weekend warriors in a real bad situation. Nobody figured out why they started firing.
They had it coming at Kent, as they did in California, where Reagan deployed troops, with one fatality resulting. It worked and stopped the violence cold.
I’m sorry. But if I was a cop, responding to a wilding or a chimp-out or what have you - knowing that 8 years of One Big Ass Mistake America has resulted in exultation of the thug culture and a disdain, even hatred of law and order; I’d be nervous and possibly trigger happy too.
That’s just the way it is. Cops today are losing in the “us against them” battle of the streets. 98% of cops do their job and do the right thing. But in a land where the right thing is wrong, and where thuggery and violence is encouraged - it is only natural and expected that schnauzers are blown away and 15 year old boys are killed. We are in a culture war. Casualties are to be expected. And sometimes the good guys (cops) screw up and a friendly is now a statistic.
Don’t like that common experience in America? Tell it to the leftists and liberals who encourage BLM, Antifa, the Welfare State, illegal immigration, abortion and hundreds more social ills and evil activities.
Always get a chuckle when I see that score posted.
“...And in other scores, National Guard 4, Kent State 0...”
The couple of people who spoke to me about it in 2003 claimed to not understand my “EPA 14, NASA 0” bumper sticker.
AntiFA: Anti-First Amendmenters.
Yet the declassified FBI files show the FBI already had developed credible evidence suggesting that there was indeed a sniper and that one or more shots may have been fired at the guardsmen
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I read an article some years ago stating that a bronze statue had a bullet hole in,it passing through at an angle.
The bullet entry and exit suggests the sniper was higher up than the target
OBTW, his name was Robert Fassnacht. And he was married and had three young children.
By the time I arrived at Madison in the fall of 1975, several of the conspirators in the bombing had been arrested and were being prosecuted. I had a knock on my door in the dormitory where I was living as a freshman, and it was some brain dead hippie who was raising money for the legal defense of David Fine, one of the conspirators. Two mistakes there, knocking on the door of a college student looking for a donation of any kind (I was very broke, all of the time then), and knocking on the door of someone who knew of and cared about the victim of that crime. I tore into that bastard and he left frightened by my response.
Fine was convicted, served time, attended the University of Oregon Law School and passed the bar there. He was rejected for admission to practice, and sued. Fortunately, he was never able to get licensed. He could not pass the moral character requirement.
Every August, in years that mark a 5 year anniversary increment - the local papers cover the topic with a "where are they now?" approach, focusing on the bombers, one of whom, Leo Burt, remains a fugitive. Very little is ever said about the victim.
I have never understood the outrage against stopping the rioters at Kent. They were burning buildings, absolute chaos. If they didn’t listen to orders to stop, what are you supposed to do after a warning shot??
They should have gotten control over the mobs in the recent riots before the fires and jumping on cop cars started.
Law and order is hopefully on the way back under Trump, but it will be a vicious fight with the liberals to get there.
We lived in a DC suburb during the Kent State riots and MLK riots. We had two infant sons. I was concerned about my family’s safety and mine as I spent several days a month in DC, working.
In both riots, I had to drive my vehicle through tear gas to to get out of harm’s way and go home. We didn’t have cell phones, news 24/7 and local nixle alerts to warn us possible danger from rioters.
I took a promotion to get my family out of what was becoming a hostile area to live in and work in.
The comments below are from Wikipedia about both riots:
Just five days after the Kent State shootings, 100,000 people demonstrated in Washington, D.C., against the war and the killing of unarmed student protesters. Ray Price, Nixon’s chief speechwriter from 1969–1974, recalled the Washington demonstrations saying, “The city was an armed camp. The mobs were smashing windows, slashing tires, dragging parked cars into intersections, even throwing bedsprings off overpasses into the traffic down below. This was the quote, student protest. That’s not student protest, that’s civil war.”[10]
Not only was Nixon taken to Camp David for two days for his own protection, but Charles Colson (Counsel to President Nixon from 1969 to 1973) stated that the military was called up to protect the administration from the angry students; he recalled that “The 82nd Airborne was in the basement of the executive office building, so I went down just to talk to some of the guys and walk among them, and they’re lying on the floor leaning on their packs and their helmets and their cartridge belts and their rifles cocked and you’re thinking, ‘This can’t be the United States of America. This is not the greatest free democracy in the world. This is a nation at war with itself.’”[10]
The King assassination riots, also known as the Holy Week Uprising, was a wave of civil disturbance which swept the United States following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. on April 4, 1968.
The link below shows some of the damage from the MLK riots in DC.
http://www.atchuup.com/1968-photos-of-dc-riots/
I remember those days too. What is sad is that so many of the antagonists never got punished and in many cases were rewarded. The Black Panters, SDS and Bill Ayers are viewed as heroes and one of their left wing radical proteges tried to fundamentally transform our beloved country for 8 years.
Hmm I may have overlooked that one.
Actually I am somewhat familiar with Ohio and SW Ohio history in particular but was surprised to hear that U of Cincinnati had frequent, even nightly fires on campus and that Natl Guard jeeps with MGs were on Fountain Square at one point.
I should have included the /sarc tag .. sorry
As an ex cop (70s-80s) I find it extraordinary that the police with active thuggery, assault, battery, attempted murder occurring in front of their eyes by these masked antifa cowards do absolutely nothing to promote law and order which is their job. BUT, they will shoot a dog growling *not in a riot) or a person exiting a vehicle with ‘something’ in their hand (again not in a riot). I don’t buy the over-adrenaline reaction from a riot occurs in the dog/motorist shoot scenario. I do think maybe some dog type reaction needs occur when an officer sees a citizen about to be bushwhacked by an antifa coward. Just IMO of course.
What is sad is that so many of the antagonists never got punished and in many cases were rewarded. The Black Panters, SDS and Bill Ayers are viewed as heroes and one of their left wing radical proteges tried to fundamentally transform our beloved country for 8 years.
It turns out that the Kent State Shooting ALSO allowed another American history "mystery" to be solved which is MUCH bigger than the Kent State shooting. It can be argued that the evidence that PROVED the guardsman were shot at BEFORE the fire was returned is ignored because it gives an answer that IS NOT WANTED BY THE LEFTIST AGITATORS.
Kent State-FOUR pistol shots BEFORE the National Guard volley
The acoustics evidence clearly indicates that pistols were fired first. The analysis of this evidence is not hand waving foolishness equivalent to what a lawyer argues to the usual near brain dead American public, it can be analyzed to determine what actually happened.
When audio evidence appeared in the biggest mystery in American history, the Kent State work was used as a basis for the study in that case. Fortunately, there is additional evidence that PROVES the audio evidence analysis is "mostly" correct. And since it gives answers that are NOT wanted by the censors in America, it too has been generally ignored.
It's so easy to fool Americans. Find some "experts" who don't have any idea what they are talking about and get them to tell the public that this information is unknowable. Then you can call the truth a "conspiracy theory" and the lies can continue to be told to the dumbed down public.
If YOU can think without being told what to think by the presstitutes and their gov't handlers, you can know the truth. That also assumes you have at least a high school level understanding of mathematics (which is frequently not true of college graduates).
YES they did figure out what happened.
A recording of the event PROVES that FOUR pistol shots were fired BEFORE the National Guard volley was fired.
The pistol fire proof was NOT consistent with the left's Anti-American agenda so it was discredited in the public's mind. It doesn't matter what you or I think, it only matters what a valid acoustical analysis indicates happened.
Kent State acoustical analysis indicates pistol shots were fired before the fatal volley was fired
And somehow LBJ’s War became “Nixon’s War”, even though Nixon was trying to do a lot more to get us out than LBJ did.
freepers good lord the stuff y’all get wet over.....
21 posts before the truth
Thank you
Stupid runs high here sometimes
Makes you just want to give up sometimes
I’m from Ohio and the pastor and wife of my old church were both students at Kent when the shooting occurred. In the early ‘80s they told me about that day, cowering in their dorm rooms on the floor with no idea about the protest, like the vast majority of the campus, scared to death, not know what was going on. Few people then or now have much of an idea what happened, but know the meme.
My husband is from California. When the subject came up early in our marriage of 24 years, his response was that his brother knew a co-ed in the ‘70s that was paid by the Communist Party to protest on college campuses. Kent was sad, but did stop the protests and probably prevented many more fatalities...and Ayers deserves the death penalty.
My pastors were like their peers and the majority of under grads today- young, dumb, no interest in politics, focused on school work and parties. The libs would try to have us believe otherwise.
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