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http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0019:text=Catil.:speech=1:chapter=1

Obama is the modern Cataline, the Progressives his followers.

1 posted on 04/06/2017 7:09:40 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU

Yur cute! How many posts are you gonna wait till you translate?


2 posted on 04/06/2017 7:13:38 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: ZULU

So, Cicero hated cats?...................


3 posted on 04/06/2017 7:13:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: ZULU

Cataline was a crass, pleasure loving, amoral privileged Roman who made common political cause with the poor and unducated to enhance his own wealth and power. Cicero understood that such people were a greater threat to the entire Roman nation and culture than all their foreign enemies combined. In modern day America, the appearances are different, but the characters and themes are the same.


5 posted on 04/06/2017 7:19:43 AM PDT by allendale
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To: ZULU

One of my absolute favorites from Cicero. Used to be able to read it in the original, now my latin has sadly decayed to uselessness and trivia.


9 posted on 04/06/2017 7:29:07 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: ZULU

It’s all Greek to me.


11 posted on 04/06/2017 7:30:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ZULU

I presented this oration for an oratory contest when I was in high school. Won the district finals as I recall.


15 posted on 04/06/2017 7:35:45 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ZULU

Some of the best historical novels about ancient Rome I have ever read are from Robert Harris. His trilogy on Cicero is fantastic and often very true to the historical record.

https://www.amazon.com/Imperium-Novel-Ancient-Robert-Harris/dp/0743498666

By the way, the audio CDs for each book are wonderfully done. I listened to the third one this summer and found it absolutely gripping: https://www.amazon.com/Dictator-novel-Robert-Harris/dp/0399567852/ref=tmm_abk_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=


21 posted on 04/06/2017 7:46:38 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ZULU

I had a professor once from Denmark who was in the US on a one-year appointment (he could have stayed longer but his wife didn’t like living here). He thought Catalina Island off the California coast was named for Catiline. I explained to him it was named for St. Catherine.


30 posted on 04/06/2017 8:29:24 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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34 posted on 04/06/2017 9:27:25 AM PDT by upchuck (Be strong, but not rude; be kind, but not weak; be bold, but not bully; be thoughtful, but not lazy.)
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To: ZULU

The really interesting one was Cicero’s secretary/slave. If he hadn’t have written down Cicero’s speeches we would know nothing about him.


35 posted on 04/06/2017 10:08:08 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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