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Spin measurements evade Heisenberg uncertainty principle
Chemistry World, The Royal Society of Chemistry (GB) ^ | 30 Mar, 2017 | TIM WOGAN

Posted on 04/04/2017 7:18:54 PM PDT by MtnClimber

New technique allows atomic spin properties to be measured simultaneously with greater accuracy

Many seemingly unrelated scientific techniques, from NMR spectroscopy to medical MRI and timekeeping using atomic clocks, rely on measuring atomic spin – the way an atom’s nucleus and electrons rotate around each other. The limit on how accurate these measurements can be is set by the inherent fuzziness of quantum mechanics. However, physicists in Spain have demonstrated that this limit is much less severe than previously believed, measuring two crucial quantities simultaneously with unprecedented precision.

Central to the limits of quantum mechanics is the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which states that it is not possible to know a particle’s position and momentum with absolute accuracy, and the more precisely you measure one quantity, the less you know about the other. This is because to measure its position you have to disturb its momentum by hitting it with another particle and observing how the momentum of this second particle changes. A similar principle applies to measuring a particle’s spin angular momentum, which involves observing how the polarisation of incident light is changed by the interaction with the particle – every measurement disturbs the atom’s spin slightly. To infer the spin precession rate, you need to measure the spin angle, as well as its overall amplitude, repeatedly. However, every measurement disturbs the spin slightly, creating a minimum possible uncertainty.......

The spin angle, they say, is in fact two angles: the azimuthal angle and polar angle to measure the precession rate, you need only the azimuthal angle. Therefore, by loading as much uncertainty as possible into the polar angle, you can measure the two quantities you need – the azimuthal angle and amplitude of the spin – and therefore measure the spin precession rate much more accurately than previously thought possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at chemistryworld.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: heisenberg
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1 posted on 04/04/2017 7:18:54 PM PDT by MtnClimber
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I wonder if this will impact the security of quantum encryption?


2 posted on 04/04/2017 7:20:06 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

HEISENBERG!


3 posted on 04/04/2017 7:20:47 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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4 posted on 04/04/2017 7:23:09 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Proud Keeper of the Sarah Palin and New First Lady Melania Ping Lists. Let me know if you want on.)
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To: headstamp 2

Yes Heisenberg, not Hindenberg which went all splody on us.


5 posted on 04/04/2017 7:23:40 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Yeah, Science Mr. White! Science, B!TCH!


6 posted on 04/04/2017 7:27:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: MtnClimber

There used to be a desktop image, I think it came standard on Windows ME, that depicted atoms or molecules and their curving and arcing trajectories.

it was neat.


7 posted on 04/04/2017 7:28:40 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: MtnClimber

I was going to reply to this thread but I didn’t want to perturb it


8 posted on 04/04/2017 7:31:08 PM PDT by bigbob
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Can you accurately predict how much you affect the momentum or position by attempting to measure both?

A photon has a known energy and its effect can be subtracted out. So if a particle slows down, you know how fast it might have been if you hadn't tried to measure it.

Then there is schroedinger’s cat and its relationship?

9 posted on 04/04/2017 7:32:30 PM PDT by dhs12345
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I was going to reply to this thread but I didn’t want to perturb it

Suddenly I have gone all wobbly.

10 posted on 04/04/2017 7:33:44 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Does Hussein in Tahiti know this?


11 posted on 04/04/2017 7:34:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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12 posted on 04/04/2017 7:38:00 PM PDT by Right Brother
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Eugene Polzik of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark is impressed: ‘It sets a new and clever way of measuring certain magnetic field disturbances using an ensemble of quantum spins,’ he says. ‘It would be easy for me to look at this and say “Oh, yes, right: it doesn’t contradict quantum mechanics,” but to figure out how to achieve this, to understand how relevant it is and under what circumstances it is relevant – this is an excellent and elegant development.’

...

At least from this part of the article, which was saved for last, the uncertainty principle is still intact.


13 posted on 04/04/2017 7:38:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: bigbob

Avoid the entanglement, eh?


14 posted on 04/04/2017 7:38:31 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: MtnClimber
Next step, transporters.


15 posted on 04/04/2017 7:40:12 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Paladin2
Does Hussein in Tahiti know this?

0bama is like a black hole spinning. There is not anything that will slow down his spin.

16 posted on 04/04/2017 7:40:43 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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17 posted on 04/04/2017 7:40:49 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Proud Keeper of the Sarah Palin and New First Lady Melania Ping Lists. Let me know if you want on.)
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18 posted on 04/04/2017 7:42:32 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: T-Bone Texan

https://www.castledragmire.com/OtherContent/Win98Themes/Science.jpg

this is similar.


19 posted on 04/04/2017 7:43:33 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: MtnClimber

Speaking of uncertainty, Get back to me after you have divided the spin radius by two and reached zero.

I won’t be waiting...


20 posted on 04/04/2017 7:45:56 PM PDT by soycd
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