I remember being a young child and doing what you described once...
ONCE
Posted on 04/01/2017 4:27:35 PM PDT by Trump20162020
This seems to be a perennial argument in the food service industry but it never fails to attract my interest. The Washington Post picked up the story of an an upscale Italian restaurant in North Carolina called Caruso’s. They had run into a number of issues with parents bringing young and too often horribly behaved children into the eatery for dinner who then wound up annoying the rest of the clientele. As they tell the story, the straw which broke the camel’s back was a young girl with an i-Pad who was playing videos at full volume despite being asked to turn it down (or off) and the parents were completely failing to discipline her or resolve the situation. Shortly after that they imposed a ban on bringing children under the age of five into the establishment.
The typical howls of outrage from some parents began immediately, but there was another reaction as well.
The ban — conceived by the restaurant’s owner, Pasquale Caruso — has led to a dramatic increase in reservations, said Nunez, who said Caruso’s has seen a spike in diners, from about 50 per day to around 80.
“Banning children has always been a topic in the industry and every owner says, ‘I wish I could do it,’” he said. “Our owner has the full support of the staff. We work here to make a living, too, and we support our owner 100 percent.”
Good for them. Too often you see only one side of this debate in the press and it centers on the parents who are complaining and saying that families are being stigmatized or punished or what have you.
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“Amazing number of child-haters on FR. I hate child-haters.”
Those that hate children are the childish parents that fail to discipline their children to grow up. That’s hate.
“But, if you think this is bad, wait until the crurent crop of “snowflakes” has kids... “
I am already seeing it. These 20 year olds wear pajamas and batch robes in public thinking they are being uber casual.
Worth repeating.
It is not the responsibility of the village to raise the village idiot's kid.
“Don’t like it? Too bad. That’s what noise cancelling headphones are for.”
You exemplify why steerage was created.
When our boy was little, our rule was that we didn't take him with us to eat in any place that didn't have a drive-thru.
We gradually moved up to mid-grade chain restaurants. Appleby's and the sort, where you get table service, but it's fast. We waited until about Middle School before anything approaching "upscale".
Smaller kids get bored, distracted, and antsy while waiting longer for the personalized service and food prep you get in a high-end place. It's not their fault.
“didn’t offer to help pick up anything or pay for the destroyed books. People were just flabbergasted.”
She should have been arrested and made to pay restitution. The ONLY way to stop bad behavior is with negative incentives.
“This discussion reminds me of the flaky parents who take offense when they’re invited to a wedding, but no children, please.”
I went to a no-children-please wedding. A few parents took their children and the kid were as expected of such parents...terrible. They very rudely interrupted the service multiple times including running up to the alter and tearing down the flower arrangements.
Considering the out of control behavior children exhibit these days, I expect more and more no-children expectations.
This is important, and I try to remember to do it, too.
Something like "Your children are very well-behaved. Such ladies and gentlemen!"
First off, everyone likes to be complimented on their children's character traits, so it's just a nice thing to do. Maybe they've had a rough day, and a kind word is a blessing.
But, secondly, the children also hear it. Positive reinforcement. It's a good thing!
“Does everyone want me to bring my adorable but highly unruly black lab/border collie to any restaurant?”
Excellent point. Some people’s dogs act better than some people’s children, yet, those parents wouldn’t want your dog there.
“Here in Maryland a child under age can cost the bar owner his license.”
Same in Colorado. Any establishment that has a liquor license can restrict entry to those over 21, and many do.
A kid kept wandering up to my table at a local restaurant. After about the third time I sent him away, I grabbed a very dirty dish off the empty table next to me, put the sticky mess in his hands and said “here, take this back to mommy and show her what you found.”
I have three children all in early to late teens and all but one behaved well in restaurants except for one event. The youngest son about age five tried an Olive Taylor lay down in the floor kicking and screaming he wasn’t eating his food tantrum. I physically dragged him out the door flung him in our van and drove around back of the restaurant and wailed on his little behind but good. When I drove up front my wife had paid the bill and was waiting with our two other kids. We went home and I wore his butt out again, sat him on couch in my office and made him watch Fox News the rest of the day. He never crossed me or my wife again.
A month or two later we were at a Pizza Hut eating, we are regulars there and we were seated next to a couple with a boy and girl about 4-5-6 age range. They were screaming and throwing food and trashing area and very disruptive to whole restaurant. Finally my five year old who was watching this quietly said aloud Dad those two kids need their hinneys busted good! The couple just looked at him put their heads down and asked for check and left quickly.
Other than that one incident mine were all well behaved and we got lots of compliments in restaurants for their good behavior. One guy at a drive thru asked how come my kids never screamed and yelled when ordering and I told him if they do I’ll beat their brains out. I won’t tolerate boorish behavior.
good come back! That response was originally posted to me..
Why? Because I believe I have right to sit wherever I want so long as I pay the fare??
Eff off and go make a donation to Planned Parenthood, child hater.
bfl
I remember being a young child and doing what you described once...
ONCE
What you say is quite true, and the reason why my children were well-behaved and reliable upon reaching majority. But that was in a different era,40-50 years ago. But now, if you physically discipline and your child or and observers see and report it, Child Protective Services will remove the child and put you in jail.
Have you taken a serious look at the Democrat party lately?
Snicker. That’s part of the point of starting discipline young. You don’t need much and later when they could have reported you there’s no need for it.
Seriously it is a problem when the State is interfering and suggesting any spanking is grounds for removing your children. Inventiveness can still free you to do the right thing for your children.
We used water torture. If one of my kids had a meltdown I filled a glass of water at the sink. If they were still screaming when I got back I pored the water over their head. One kid was stubborn & needed two once. After the first time when I started filling the glass they would pull themselves together and just move on. I recommend it, you stop being mad because they are so funny dripping wet & screaming. Humor always defuses a situation.
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