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Freedom Caucus drives dagger into heart of young Trump Presidency
FOXNEWS Opinion Section: Elizabeth Peek ^ | March 24, 2017 | Elizabeth Peek

Posted on 03/25/2017 9:05:20 AM PDT by ShivaFan

It is hard to overestimate the damage the Freedom Caucus has done to the fledgling presidency of Donald Trump, and to the country. By blocking the American Health Care Act of 2017, the conservative group has guaranteed that Americans will struggle forward under the burden of Obamacare. In the next few months insurers will announce their premium hikes for the coming year; chances are, given the continuing withdrawal of major companies from the marketplaces and the ongoing failure of the bill to attract enough young and healthy participants, the new rates will not be pretty. Last year premiums went up 25%; it’s likely the increases will be higher this year.

Republicans will own those higher rates. Their failure to repeal the financial underpinnings of Obamacare and start replacing that failing program with an approach that encourages competition and that embodies numerous other common sense reforms will mean that families hit by ever-higher costs will blame the GOP. Voters elected Donald Trump and a GOP Congress to get this job done – the number one promise of every Republican campaign since 2010...

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To: SaxxonWoods
I also think the Freedom Caucus will never let O-care go until it fails on it’s own at which point they will tell us single payer is the only hope.

You think the Freedom Caucus is for single payer??

141 posted on 03/25/2017 11:36:23 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: taxcontrol

Maybe he has learned his lesson. We want limited government — not limitless government. I will disagree with him when he is wrong— I guarantee that.I didn’t take him as a diety. He is my president. I am a real conservative ==not a FAKE conservative like paul RINO.


142 posted on 03/25/2017 11:36:38 AM PDT by WENDLE (WE DEFEATED RINOCARE! NOW WE WANT FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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To: sargon

I point out hypocrisy where and WHEN I see it. And yes, both before and after the GOP Convention. In this case, the hypocrisy is not with Trump, as Candidate Trump he supported “government care” and did so consistantly.

The hypocrisy that I attempted to expose was of the so call Republicans or conservatives on FreeRepublic who opposed Obamacare but supported Trump who still wants the government to control health care.


143 posted on 03/25/2017 11:36:49 AM PDT by taxcontrol (,)
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To: WENDLE

I hope and pray that you are right.

If the Freedom caucus has the fortitude to resubmit one of the prior straight repeal bills, and it gets to President Trump’s desk, we shall see if he has learned.


144 posted on 03/25/2017 11:38:49 AM PDT by taxcontrol (,)
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To: FreeReign; bigbob

There may be 30 democrats who might be considering party-jumping.


145 posted on 03/25/2017 11:39:09 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: af_vet_1981
The next deal will be less conservative and more painful for all of us.

So it's your belief that Trump will sign on to a single payer?

146 posted on 03/25/2017 11:42:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tennmountainman
Obamacare is alive and will be funded by the RINO’s and RAT’s voting together. Those who think it will collapse on its old weight can’t do voting math.

Yours is Fake Math.

How many times in the past few years did the Republicans vote for a simple repeal? Yet, you think it can't be done.

147 posted on 03/25/2017 11:47:07 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: taxcontrol

Why aren’t they? They could have had it ready to go on Trump’s first day in office. Why didn’t they have it ready for Trump to sign??

Because it’s a dog and pony show, just like it was the first time.


148 posted on 03/25/2017 11:47:15 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: taxcontrol
The hypocrisy that I attempted to expose was of the so call Republicans or conservatives on FreeRepublic who opposed Obamacare but supported Trump who still wants the government to control health care.

The choice was between supporting Trump or supporting Hillary, Einstein.

And in case you haven't noticed, the politician has never been born with whom you're going to agree on every single issue.

Furthermore, despite his lofty rhetoric regarding healthcare, the President also outlined numerous free market factors which could be introduced that would positively effect insurance premiums and the like.

Don't forget, politics is the art of the possible, not the wimsical. Notwithstanding that, on balance I believe that the defeat yesterday of Ryan-care was the best possible outcome. The President will survive this. I'm not so sure about the Speaker. And if that's the case, it would be a very positive side effect.

Thanks for the perspective...

149 posted on 03/25/2017 11:54:11 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon

No, the choice is between supporting freedom and limited government vs well ..... not.


150 posted on 03/25/2017 12:00:40 PM PDT by taxcontrol (,)
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To: ShivaFan

Ridiculous. This author and apparently you don’t know how bad Trump would have looked if Obamacare Lite had passed. They likely saved his tiny heinie.


151 posted on 03/25/2017 12:06:23 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: TTFX

30% penalty? Ok. let’s walk through it. A person shows up at the ER from a car accident and is pretty busted up so that’s going to run about $250K after surgeries.

Let’s see, 30% of $12,000 is $3600. So $1000/mo plus penalty, say $4600 up front, right? For $250,000 of care. And you’re complaining? For real? Naw. you’re pulling my leg, right?

If ya’ll don’t want to buy insurance I’m down with that. You can pay cash all day long. Just pay full price.

What bailout for the insurance companies? Oh, wait, I found a talking point - we’re supposed to ‘force premiums down.’ I didn’t see anything in Rands link that says a single word about forcing insurance companies to do anything.

The only way to ‘force’ premiums down is to regulate the (cough) out of the companies or vaporize everyone who’s not 100% healthy. I don’t see either one happening. And the vaporizing thing will only work for a few years anyway.


152 posted on 03/25/2017 12:06:43 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: ShivaFan

The failure to vote deprives us of the important information about who would have voted for the bill. We can’t primary as accurately.


153 posted on 03/25/2017 12:07:10 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Irredeemable Deplorable Texan)
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To: tennmountainman

I think you misunderstood my comment. I voted Trump and I supported him from the beginning but then I also did the same for W as well as his Daddy. His selection of Gorsuch is great but if you think Trump is a conservative because it’s what you want him to be you are going to have many more disappointments as will I.


154 posted on 03/25/2017 12:13:49 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (Deep State has a tap root.)
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To: ShivaFan

Step away from the Kool-Aid please.


155 posted on 03/25/2017 12:20:05 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: txhurl

Only 17% backed the horrid healthcare bill that Trump insisted on repeatedly telling us was “great”. He unfortunately burned a lot of credibility right there. Needs to have his Act II together.

Also, the next time around he needs to bully the RINOs, not the conservatives!


156 posted on 03/25/2017 12:21:45 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: blueplum

“30% penalty? Ok. let’s walk through it. A person shows up at the ER from a car accident and is pretty busted up so that’s going to run about $250K after surgeries.

Let’s see, 30% of $12,000 is $3600. So $1000/mo plus penalty, say $4600 up front, right? For $250,000 of care. And you’re complaining? For real? Naw. you’re pulling my leg, right?

If ya’ll don’t want to buy insurance I’m down with that. You can pay cash all day long. Just pay full price.”


What does that have to do with whether Rand Paul’s plan contain or not the 30% penalty?


157 posted on 03/25/2017 12:22:48 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Please tell me what Republican voted for Obamacare...?


158 posted on 03/25/2017 12:29:13 PM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: 9YearLurker

That’s if you truly believe DJT liked the bill, instead of using this fight to single out Uniparty RINO swampsters for primarying. I believe he set his enemies up, knowing the bill was going nowhere.

There’s a new game in town in DC, and it looks nothing like the old Uniparty fake division that people still view actions in the old game.


159 posted on 03/25/2017 12:31:31 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: FreeReign

That was GOP grandstanding when it didn’t matter.
You know that, as well as anybody else.

If they had the VOTES, when it mattered they would have done it.


160 posted on 03/25/2017 12:38:09 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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