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1 posted on 03/25/2017 8:17:09 AM PDT by bboop
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as much as a breath of fresh air Donald J. Trump is, he is not a God Emperor. Conservatives can disagree with him and that doesn’t make them liberals.


2 posted on 03/25/2017 8:19:12 AM PDT by ErikJohnsky
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No, Drudge gone “you GOP, get yer freaking act together.”


3 posted on 03/25/2017 8:19:41 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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Yeah, I noticed that also. “Trump humiliated” and all that. Perhaps Drudge is just trying to be dramatic. Anyway, it’s over the top.


4 posted on 03/25/2017 8:20:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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It prevented TrumpCare for sure. Whether that is a good thing for Trump or not, it was certainly a good thing for America. Now it is time to REPEAL and make that the official TrumpCare - free market driven buy your own care.


5 posted on 03/25/2017 8:21:30 AM PDT by sagar
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The fact that Republicans with control of all three branches of government could not repeal/replace ObamaCare WAS a defeat for Trump and Ryan. Not sure what you want them to say.


6 posted on 03/25/2017 8:22:39 AM PDT by plain talk
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Some conservatives and moderate Republicans had problems wth Ryans approach for different reasons.....

That doesn’t make them a lib......

The Republican party is not a monolith like the Demoncrats....It’s a broad dysfunctional family.....

Drudge is still conservative...


7 posted on 03/25/2017 8:22:59 AM PDT by nevergore
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I always get pissed when they use click bait anti Trump nyt,wapo,so, etc, stories in the Marquee, because those clicks just feed the left news sites. I usually will complain via their news tips box. I have noticed they have been better about not doing that so much. Maybe I got my point across.


9 posted on 03/25/2017 8:23:44 AM PDT by pacificus
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Drudge headlines are always a little on the hyperbolic side.

RyanCare or TrumpCare or whatever you want to call it didn't go down. It never came up for a vote so it's still alive.

If Ryan decides to repeal the phases it will probably pass with flying colors.

This thing smacked of Lucy enticing Charlie Brown to kick the football.

How many times are we going to fall for that?

10 posted on 03/25/2017 8:23:45 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Drudge is right. The GOP had 8 years to get this right and completely bombed, leaving Trump holding the bag. Both moderates and conservative look like children with all the in-fighting.


13 posted on 03/25/2017 8:25:07 AM PDT by BruinX66
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I believe Trump had a deal with Ryan and some the GOPe. Maybe it was support during the general election? I am not sure.

Trump gave the GOPe their opportunity to get it done. They failed. Trump, working with the GOPe and conservatives, will come back with a plan that will pass. Even democrats will eventually be forced to do something because the current program is crashing.


14 posted on 03/25/2017 8:26:35 AM PDT by boycott
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drudge is trying to decide if he is a RINO or a democrat.


17 posted on 03/25/2017 8:31:04 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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O’Sullivan’s Law: “All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.”


18 posted on 03/25/2017 8:33:11 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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LOL...Drudge must’ve received LOTS of notes, about this, in his message box.

He did this before...I can’t recall right now what it was on....and, he lost traffic.


20 posted on 03/25/2017 8:35:21 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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Trump backing Ryan and that GOPe Corporate handout Healthcare, deserved an ‘Humiliating” defeat.


25 posted on 03/25/2017 8:38:19 AM PDT by heights
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Drudge cannot and won’t make every day a “feel good” day for Trump over the next four years. But when the money is on the line, he’s squarely in the corner of conservatives. And that may be part of the issue. This healthcare bill isn’t conservative.


26 posted on 03/25/2017 8:39:30 AM PDT by boycott
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I haven’t heard anyone say this yet, which is why it will show up ten times in previous writings after I’ve typed it, but Ryancare was Trump’s Bay of Pigs, his stupid move at the beginning of his Presidency. He either learns from it and plays out the remainder of his administration well, or reels from it and becomes the last gasp before the final instituting of American socialism. I pray for the former.


27 posted on 03/25/2017 8:39:46 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Great generals had defeats. I’m not even sure this is a defeat for Trump. Only time will tell.


28 posted on 03/25/2017 8:42:53 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Who is to blame for the rino Ryan care disaster. President Trump or Speaker Ryan of Ryan Care lite? I blame the Ryan supporting rino moderates of Congress who are so evil as to not support the original plan of repealing without replacing obamacare . Are they taking bribes, is what I wonder.

The hate filled dem Congress passed health care and obamanaiton signed it into law. Rinos of this Congress love the evil government run health care as it lines their evil pockets,.The conservative coalition of Congress are the good guys and so very few in number now days, those who did not support the evil health care plan that the idiot Ryan wanted. President Trump needs to work with the conservatives who would not vote for rino ryan care, aka, obamacare lite. I am glad they failed to pass this horrible bill, repeal Obamancare fully and do not replace it with government subsidized benefiting insurance companies and return healthcare to the capitalists only and it will work.


31 posted on 03/25/2017 8:50:33 AM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour. Trump is helping make America great again.)
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I was saying same thing on Reddit the other day. His narrative has been extremely negative towards Trump.


33 posted on 03/25/2017 8:52:10 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump Pence 16 - Blow Up DC)
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It seems that everyone has a different spin on it being taken off the table. I was surprised that multiple NEWSMAX articles were very pro-Ryan and anti-Trump.

My spin is that we are in new territory.
No longer can Obama be blamed. The media will make trying to blame Obama sound worse than when Dems blamed Bush for everything.

Ryan cannot be blamed as there is no Ryancare.
Trump cannot be blamed as there is no Trumpcare.
The Freedom Caucus cannot be blamed as there is no Repeal.

But some teams are left with the ball.
Tom Price and Seema Verma have massive power to change and abolish regulations. They can give massive waivers to the states for Medicaid, Kidcare, WIC, TANF and the many HHS programs.

Assuming Price and Verma are smart:
States have the opportunity to take new initiatives. They no longer have to dance to Slavitt’s tune.

Insurance companies can experiment.

Hospitals, Doctors, can experiment as with direct care that totally bypasses insurance companies.

Medical Sharing plans that are not insurance have the freedom to expand without fear of Obama wasting all their money in court battles.

Voluntary Charity from Wounded Warriors to the Shriners and hospitals run by religious groups should have more freedom to raise money and spend it the way they wish. Protections from fraud and use of non-profit money to line fund raisers pockets, yes. But not beyond that.

And
Congress still has the opportunity to fix parts of the system. The Ryancare bill put the cart before the horse. That was its major problem.

There needs to be Tort Reform. De-Regulation needs to go beyond what Price-Verma can do. Currently much government funding is earmarked for specific diseases and programs based on who has the best lobbyist... So much of the big health grants for research and HIV and Autism and every special interest does not go to solve the problem. The money goes to the lobbyist industry, and to design the health programs to get the money, not to heal the patient.

Indeed, under the current system, the customer of the Insurance Companies is HHS. The customer of the Hospital and doctor is HHS, not the patient. The patient is just a widget in the production process to get HHS money.

The states that manage Medicaid, Kidcare, WIC, TANF, etc have no incentive to consider what is best use of taxpayer money. They have no incentive to consider what is best for the Medicaid member.

Who is the customer? That is the change that must be made regardless of anything else.


40 posted on 03/25/2017 8:58:35 AM PDT by spintreebob
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