Posted on 03/24/2017 9:56:23 PM PDT by WhatNot
Thank God for the Freedom Caucus. The Lord hath preserved a remnant who will not bow the knee.
While Ryan was crafting Obamacare 2, what the fvck were the FC doing, exactly? Are they not in the same party? Or has Ryan gone rogue? /s
as far as obamacare goes, I’d rather keep the creeps health care and not change it until it finally collapses....I don’t want some rino bill with so many unknowns....
While Ryan was crafting Obamacare 2, what the fvck were the FC doing, exactly? Are they not in the same party? Or has Ryan gone rogue? /s
Seriously?! No need to get so feisty...
Why is it no one will do their own research before posting?
A simple search reveals what they were doing:
After the rollout...finally Ryan lets them input...
Probably more, but I am too tired to do your research...
Unless I mis-heard Hannity (possible - I’m not a regular listener, and often can catch only bits and pieces), the Freedom Caucus was pretty well cut out of the crafting of this thing. My impression (of Hannity) that I did hear was that all along, Hannity complained about the process and that too few were involved.
I cannot believe FREEPERS are wringing their hands that Ryancare was defeated! Are you people fu*king serious? Ryancare was the GOP version of Obamacare! Ryancare had NO repeal! And you’re seriously saying you believed the repeal would’ve happened in phases 2 or 3? WTF! Pfft!
I was delighted that POS didn’t pass, because we would’ve owned It...forever! The Dems still own the disaster called Obamacare!
Ryan has been exposed as the loser here! Now we can start over with Ryan out of the way.
It ignored things like healthcare sharing ministries and in fact would have made people using them non-compliant which despite being more efficient than insurance companies while performing the exact same function with no government subsidy at all
BTW I agree, I don’t like Ryancare and hope for something better! Glad it did not get the vote.
So far as I know, and I could be wrong about this, if ObamaCare was simply (yeah, I know...) repealed, healthcare sharing ministries could continue to operate, correct?
Disclaimer: Neither I nor anyone I know, has, that I know of, a healthcare sharing ministry plan. However, these plans do seem to be a positive development.
So Ryan did go rogue. Who wrote the bill? The demoncrats?
Why didn’t the FC do something to replace Ryan if he was off the rails? /s
Unless I mis-heard Hannity (possible - I’m not a regular listener, and often can catch only bits and pieces), the Freedom Caucus was pretty well cut out of the crafting of this thing. My impression (of Hannity) that I did hear was that all along, Hannity complained about the process and that too few were involved.
Hannity also was promoting an entirely different concept—a non-insurance based medical practice called Atlas out of Kansas...A doctor Umber I believe. People pay minimal amount per month for unlimited care and then get a major medical policy for a major surgery, etc. Pharmaceuticals and lab costs less w/o insurance middleman. Hannity tried to get traction for this out-of-box approach, but Ryan did not seem interested from what I could see. Seemed like a great idea!
Ryan used his “Better Way” program as the model, and I heard he had some professor from California who worked on Kerry campaign as an advisor :(
Hannity was very critical of the process...said that everyone should have been brought to the table before the bill was publicly rolled out by Ryan.
You’re missing the point. Why was Obamacare 2.0 offered up in the first place?
WTF was the republican party doing for 6 years? Ryan and the fvcking ‘freedom caucus’?...Why weren’t they on the same page?
Cuz it’s a pathetic kabuki party playing games with the lives of the American people.
I’ll stand with the freedom caucus; you can stand with those worthless RINOs if you want. This “Democrat-lite” bill is exactly the reason that I gave up on the Republican Party.
Bring out a bill that isn’t just a rearrangement of the deck chairs on the socialist titanic and I might support it. Otherwise, go screw yourself.
Did you not read my post? #64...Why do I bother if you won’t read it??!?!...it says what the Freedom Caucus was doing...
Read #70 He used his own material. It is too late to do more research for you...however, if you want to be informed, I suggest you do.
Oh, and yes, I think Ryan has been Rogue (maybe working with Dems, maybe not) for years! Search his open borders tour with Louis Gutierrez.
Bullsh!t! I listen to Hannity too, and he was totally disgusted by all the lies coming out of the kabuki party. The story changed all the time.
I knew we were being played, AGAIN.
I posted a link to breitbart that blows the lid of your heralded ‘Ryan Caucus’
Pull your head of your puckered sphincter.
Ryan has never done a damn thing except elected office. He is an obnoxious punk. How much did the Koch Bros pay him?
Congress critters who serve loyally can even become minor Nobles in their own right leading to the reality that when they reach that level, very, very, few any longer give a damn what they believed before they got there, what they promised the people who sent them there, or the Nation they in theory help govern.
People need to realize that they can either continue to focus the comforts of becoming part of or staying a part of the minor Aristocracy who serve the Nobles, or recognize the fact it's time to completely overthrow the same sort of corrupt, Satanic, pedophile and pederast ridden, Nobility our forefathers fought and overthrew in 1776.
JMHo
Most here did not like the damn Bill. Ryan has always had big money behind him like the Koch Bros.
fireman15’s statement may seem self-contradictory, however,
I suspect RyanCare may have actually made healthcare sharing ministries “customers” non-compliant by omission: Ie., if one does not fit into category X, Y, or Z, each of which is spelled out in and has particular provisions written for, in RyanCare, then one is non-compliant with RyanCare. The ministries are not in X, Y, or Z.
This contrasts with “simple” repeal of ObamaCare, which, I am not sure, might leave these ministries Federally unregulated, or mostly so?
Maybe someone more knowledgeable can comment. :-)
Never Trumpers showed themselves.
If they were drowning and God sent them a life preserver they would hold out for a boat because they deserve better.
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