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1 posted on 03/08/2017 10:25:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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He suggested that the creation of a world government might be necessary to ensure that humanity is addressing high-impact challenges, such as climate change and the rise of artificial intelligence.
I keep hearing this man is smart. I'm still not seeing any evidence of it.
2 posted on 03/08/2017 10:31:28 PM PST by Trillian
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As usual, he has it exactly backwards. People aren't civil with each other because there's a government. Cooperative institutions form because people are willing to be civil with each other in the first place. Otherwise, they wouldn't be willing form governments (for example.)

And a single world government would be a single point of failure, and a high-value target of corruption.

"If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?" ~ Frederic Bastiat

But it's worse than that: A monopolist of law making, law enforcement and judging of the law cannot normally be forced to do what you want. It may, or may not, care for the sick, the poor, the weak and the helpless. It may decide to leave them to die...or worse.  The fact you advocate its existence for a particular reason, or the fact that the charter that creates it specifies some prime directive it must follow has as much force and effect as the promises of politicians prior to elections. In other words, none at all:

“The man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, ‘Limit yourself’; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian.” ~ Rothbard

“I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom. Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks — no form of government can render us secure.” ~ James Madison

"If men are good, you don’t need government; if men are evil or ambivalent, you don’t dare have one." ~ Robert LeFevre

Statism is a logical fallacy, because it is the self-contradictory belief that monopoly power can be its own preventative, the belief that it is logically valid to attempt to prevent the violation of the rights of individuals by establishing an institution with the monopoly power to violate the rights of individuals, and the belief that it is ethically valid to assert that any person or group of people has superior moral authority to any other person or group of people.

The truth is that one cannot achieve liberal ends using the state, because the state is inherently anti-liberal:

Politicians, bureaucrats and leaders will compete for positions of high authority in the government bureaucracy that idealists believe must exist in order for their ideal society to become reality. But what kind of people have the best chance of winning any such power struggles--whether military, political or bureaucratic?  

High-minded idealists are always at a severe disadvantage in such power struggles. People who intend only to help others are not likely to be the best at using and retaining governmental power--their very idealism, if sincere, prevents them from using the strategies and tactics mostly likely to win.  

So the most ruthless people tend to succeed at wielding coercive power, and kind-hearted people invariably find themselves at a disadvantage in making practical, effective and implementable decisions on how to most effectively use the power of the state.

"When under the pretext of fraternity, the legal code imposes mutual sacrifices on the citizens, human nature is not thereby abrogated. Everyone will then direct his efforts toward contributing little to, and taking much from, the common fund of sacrifices. Now, is it the most unfortunate who gains from this struggle? Certainly not, but rather the most influential and calculating." ~ Frederic Bastiat

Hierarchical power structures can have only one result: giving effective ownership to the rich and powerful, and denying it to everyone else. The state is a single point of failure, and a high-value target of corruption. Rich, powerful and evil people will _always_ end up in control of it. *Always.*

The ruling class advocates and supports the state because they know this. They use the state for its ability to grant immunity, monopoly, special privilege and legitimacy.

*Iron law of oligarchy:* "sociological thesis according to which all organizations, including those committed to democratic ideals and practices, will inevitably succumb to rule by an elite few (an oligarchy). The iron law of oligarchy contends that organizational democracy is an oxymoron. Although elite control makes internal democracy unsustainable, it is also said to shape the long-term development of all organizations—including the rhetorically most radical—in a conservative direction.

Robert Michels spelled out the iron law of oligarchy in the first decade of the 20th century in Political Parties, a brilliant comparative study of European socialist parties that drew extensively on his own experiences in the German Socialist Party. Influenced by Max Weber’s analysis of bureaucracy as well as by Vilfredo Pareto’s and Gaetano Mosca’s theories of elite rule, Michels argued that organizational oligarchy resulted, most fundamentally, from the imperatives of modern organization: competent leadership, centralized authority, and the division of tasks within a professional bureaucracy. These organizational imperatives necessarily gave rise to a caste of leaders whose superior knowledge, skills, and status, when combined with their hierarchical control of key organizational resources such as internal communication and training, would allow them to dominate the broader membership and to domesticate dissenting groups. Michels supplemented this institutional analysis of internal power consolidation with psychological arguments drawn from Gustave Le Bon’s crowd theory. From this perspective, Michels particularly emphasized the idea that elite domination also flowed from the way rank-and-file members craved guidance by and worshipped their leaders. Michels insisted that the chasm separating elite leaders from rank-and-file members would also steer organizations toward strategic moderation, as key organizational decisions would ultimately be taken more in accordance with leaders’ self-serving priorities of organizational survival and stability than with members’ preferences and demands." ~ Encyclopedia Britannica

3 posted on 03/08/2017 10:38:30 PM PST by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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"He suggested that the creation of a world government might be necessary to ensure that humanity is addressing high-impact challenges, such as climate change and the rise of artificial intelligence."

Steven has an apt surname. It seems he's always hawking one leftist pipe dream or another.

He's a perfect dupe of the new world order.

4 posted on 03/08/2017 10:38:37 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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When do the aliens get here that want to peacefully coexist with us aggressively tyrannical, self annihilating, instinctively stupid and lazy bunch of folks like us?


8 posted on 03/08/2017 10:46:32 PM PST by Delta 21 (The minority demands NOTHING !)
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Stick to physics, Stevie. “People must change to suit my vision of a better future” is a social policy with a lengthy, consistent, and bloody record of failure. Figure out how to manage what we are instead. You could even call such a plan a Constitution or something.


9 posted on 03/08/2017 11:05:12 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Einstein said that he was not sure what weaponry would be used in the next World War but that the one after it would be fought with sticks and stones.


12 posted on 03/08/2017 11:11:46 PM PST by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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He should stick to physics and skip all other topics


15 posted on 03/08/2017 11:23:12 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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As long as it’s a global representative democracy that evolves out of several centuries of American hegemony, after we’ve taken to the rest of this systems worlds.


21 posted on 03/08/2017 11:57:09 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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Don’t these intellectuals ever consider the danger that government poses? If I have to sell myself into slavery for the promise of safety, I’d rather have a dangerous world, because there’s no such thing as a safe slave.


23 posted on 03/09/2017 12:08:18 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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Haven’t read the comments here, yet, but I’ve never understood why anyone gives any attention to Hawkins.


24 posted on 03/09/2017 12:18:16 AM PST by octex
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the world’s population has gone from two people to now what? 7 Billion people? And we’ve been around 6000+ years- seems to me that DESPITE aggression, we’re doing pretty well numbers wise-


26 posted on 03/09/2017 12:41:43 AM PST by Bob434
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He won’t be there to live under it but he would like to see much of the world subservient to a foreign body. Mighty progressive of him.


28 posted on 03/09/2017 1:01:03 AM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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“It is hard-wired into our genes by Darwinian evolution. Now, however, technology has advanced at such a pace that this aggression may destroy us all by nuclear or biological war.

It isn't American nukes that are going to kill us all.

It isn't likely to be Russian nukes at this point that are going to kill us all.

Iranian nukes? North Korean nukes? Now you are talking about some gonzo leadership just crazy enough to use them.

And Islamic imperialist jihad has been a thing of conquest for over a thousand years.

We didn't tolerate Nazism's quest but Communism's quest and Islam's quest for rule are being pacified by people who think you can co-exist with a radical violent totalitarian ideology.

29 posted on 03/09/2017 1:05:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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someone remind me why he’s “famous,” because I’m drawing a blank. He’s right up there with Neil degrasse tyson who is famous for being black and has also accomplished nothing but he makes liberals feel good


31 posted on 03/09/2017 2:16:22 AM PST by brucedickinson
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Aggression is a natural part of human nature. Conservatives want that aggression channeled into protecting freedom. The Ctrl-Left wants a government monopoly on aggression so they can control every aspect of our lives - regardless of what the little people think they want, Nanny Government knows best and will enforce their edicts aggressively.


32 posted on 03/09/2017 2:41:16 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Just another post Christian Atheist Brit spewing up his ignorance of humanity.


33 posted on 03/09/2017 2:55:29 AM PST by x_plus_one (The chaotic evil of socialism can be exorcised.)
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Hey brainiac... with a one world government, where does one go if one doesn’t like the government?

Some people think too much, and have no sense of individuality... and the rights of the individual


35 posted on 03/09/2017 3:38:31 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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Being a top genius don’t make one smart....


37 posted on 03/09/2017 3:52:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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The disease has affected his mind. It would be better if he would spend all day contemplating black holes than trying to get a world government that would take money from producers and give it to slackers.


41 posted on 03/09/2017 4:52:03 AM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature.)
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He suggested that the creation of a world government might be necessary to ensure that humanity is addressing high-impact challenges, such as climate change and the rise of artificial intelligence.


This just proves some people can be brilliant about some things and completely stupid about others.

Human nature is human nature. It developed as a way to survive. That includes being aggressive at times (since being passives leads to extinction)

And anytime anyone talks about climate change as if man has any control over it, they move from the informed side of the ledger to the ignorant side.

Humans are the only species that have managed to adapt and survive in almost every environment found on earth (from frozen north, to deserts, to high elevations.

If the climate does change, man kind will adapt and survive.

If we had a one world government, I think the odds of mans surviving would go down not up.


42 posted on 03/09/2017 4:55:52 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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