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The Most (And Least) Worthwhile College Degrees
Zero Hedge ^ | 03/06/2017

Posted on 03/05/2017 8:28:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Leaning Right

A California university just fired all of its IT personnel to hire all foreign workers. I don’t begrudge a company for wanting to earn a profit, but in the case where the hypocrisy runs deep, then I object. Disney let go of all of its IT workers but before they let them go they had to train the foreigner workers or they received no severance pay or recommendations. Its not the pay that gets me, its the fact that the H1-B visa program is being exploited at the expense of US citizens who must live and work in this country. I know a company who rotated personnel in a position every two years. They were based out of Bangalore. It was not uncommon for an individual to come off the plane work for a month then head home for six months to get married then come back to the same job.


21 posted on 03/05/2017 10:17:47 PM PST by zaxtres
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To: SeekAndFind
Now I ain't no mathemagician but they're all the same. They all equal 100%. 😉
22 posted on 03/05/2017 10:21:55 PM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt if I spent $1,000 on my degree. I tested out.


Wow can you please share where you went and how you did that...

I have a neighbor with 4 college bound...he would be very interested to spend $1000 (well $1000 in 2017 dollars) and test out.


23 posted on 03/05/2017 10:28:04 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (JOHN 8:32 THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.)
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To: Freedom56v2

Here are some examples:

http://www.businessinsider.com/test-out-of-college-graduate-in-1-year-with-degree-by-examination-2012-6

https://www.usnews.com/education/online-education/articles/2013/08/06/finish-an-online-degree-via-credit-by-exam

http://www.tesu.edu/degree-completion/Testing.cfm

http://www.tesu.edu/tuition/how-much.cfm


24 posted on 03/05/2017 10:37:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

LAW on a 4-year degree!
Who knew?
My oh my, how things have changed since my day.

/s


25 posted on 03/05/2017 10:42:22 PM PST by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY! JOIN Club 300!)
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To: TheNext

H1-B Visa is a ban on citizenship for all STEM degrees. Engineering degrees are money losers for many because managers are US citizens but demand foreigners beneath.

75% of Silicon Valley are foreigners.

Now how much is your child’s tech degree worth when the industry demands foreigners??


The visa problem starts long before H-1b Visas are awarded. It starts freshman year in college—unlike H-1B Visas which have caps on the number awarded annually, with student visas, there are no caps on the number of student visas awarded.

Also, there are internship incentives for keeping those foreign student here as newly graduated workers that make it more attractive for companies like google to hire foreign students right out of school than hiring US students. Those internships can last a couple years.

The internship factor with unlimited student visas creates a bottleneck when the foreign newly graduated interns have to switch to the limited H-1b Visa program after a couple years. This creates a foreign student retention problem for tech companies...This is a major reason why all the tech companies have been fiercely lobbying to get the H-1b caps increased—so they can keep the foreign students they hired right out of school on student interneships as employees on H-1b Visas...all the while paying them less as many of them are the equivalent of twenty-first century indentured servants.

I hope some enterprising journalist or writer will blow the lid sky high on this outrageous scam.

University of Illinois actually sends recruiters to China to recruit students. It’s nickname is University of China... The university, a STATE school, is taxpayer supported, yet Illinois taxpayers are finding it increasingly difficult to send their students there.

My son, a computer engineer who works in San Jose, has suggested that US students interested in STEM/computers focus on hardware and firmware as many of the foreign training programs don’t have the resources to purchase current top quality hardware like US schools can purchase. date hardware.

If I had a student looking for a major, I would be likely be suggesting a major that would prepare for a career in Big Data in private sector. I think there is huge demand there, and it is not going down anywhere soon.


26 posted on 03/05/2017 10:57:20 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (JOHN 8:32 THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks...will pass along.

The schools my kids went to required a certain number of hours taken at the University to graduate and a limit on placement testing/CLEP testing...They were able to take AP courses in HS though that helped reduce their required general ed courses.

Even tho they went to state schools, their degrees were not cheap even with scholarships, however, they are all gainfully employed in their fields and doing well—at least for now.

I just know it has to be hard for my neighbor with 4—and I know he has been saving, his kids are good students, one is going to community college for first 2 years, one likely to get wrestling scholarship, etc. Anything I can pass along will be appreciated.

On Tucker Carlson, I saw a guy with a new program called AXIS—it is a program with companies hiring students into internships with no college...students get paid and they have a 98% placement rate. it looked interesting, and I am going to share that idea too...

Thanks again.


27 posted on 03/05/2017 11:06:58 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (JOHN 8:32 THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good ol' Psychology right at the bottom.

When I was in college, all the highest GPAs on the Deans List were always the Psych majors.

Everybody knew it was a sham degree.

28 posted on 03/05/2017 11:22:58 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Freedom56v2

Another route is the GI Bill, of course.


29 posted on 03/05/2017 11:37:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: TheNext

Plenty of unemployed engineers in Houston.


30 posted on 03/05/2017 11:55:56 PM PST by 353FMG (AMERICA FIRST.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

True...however, 2 of neighbor’s kids might not be eligible even if they wanted to serve, though I am sure dad would feel better having kids in military with our new CIC :)

One currently at community college probably would not make it thru med qualification as she has had Non-Hodgkin lymphoma twice!!! Pretty unbelievable to have it twice! She has been well for 2 or 3 years now, but I am sure that would raise some eyebrows on a DOD medical information form. One of mine was disqualified from academy because of a recent back injury from a car accident.

Another of neighbor’s kids, a junior in high school, was hospitalized last fall for some sort of severe colitis...I mean major issues; in hospital for several days and docs could not stop pain, he could not eat etc...major concerns! His condition is now manageable but somewhat chronic...

Anyway, we often talk about college stuff as I have had 3 that have seen light at the end of tunnel, so I will gladly pass along the information you have shared.


31 posted on 03/06/2017 12:16:05 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (JOHN 8:32 THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Saving this. Thanks for posting it all!


32 posted on 03/06/2017 12:32:54 AM PST by octex
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To: SeekAndFind

Regulations prohibiting testing of potential hires for a position is also what caused so many employers to just put “college degree” as a requirement. That reinforced “you gotta get a degree to get a decent job”.


33 posted on 03/06/2017 12:55:20 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: SeekAndFind

A degree simply gets you into a corporation. It is then up to you to demonstrate your intelligence and worth to the corporation. My final salary after 37 years in mechanical engineering field was 14 times bigger than my starting salary.


34 posted on 03/06/2017 1:34:32 AM PST by entropy12 (Enough winning Mr President already!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My Graphic Design degree (2 year degree at that) has served me well over the years.


35 posted on 03/06/2017 3:40:51 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why isn’t the MRS. degree listed?


36 posted on 03/06/2017 4:18:01 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: umgud
28 years ago I hired a lab manager, a chemist with a PHD, for $40K. Seemed pretty low for a fellow with all that education.

That is about $78K in today dollars. I suspect that is near the going rate for nontenured chemists at the local university in flyover country. Might even be a bit high.

37 posted on 03/06/2017 4:36:36 AM PST by EVO X
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To: jobim

I agree with you that it’s what you do with your degree that matters. My daughter attends a catholic high school and the staff there seems very happy. I have had conversations with a couple of teachers and they loved teaching there and want to retire at the school. Money is not everything!


38 posted on 03/06/2017 5:11:22 AM PST by angelrod
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My niece decided that she should be a school psychologist. She majored in psychology, went to grad school for 3 years, passed the nationwide exam, and now makes about $80K in her 6th year on the job.

The big thing is the grad school and the exam. The national organization deliberately made the test very difficult, to prevent large numbers of people from passing. Their plan worked, and there is a shortage of certified people so salaries are high.


39 posted on 03/06/2017 5:20:54 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmmmm. I don’t see “gender studies” on that list.

Any major with “studies” in the name is likely to be worthless.


40 posted on 03/06/2017 5:24:42 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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