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This is relevant because it reveals how the democrats are repeating the same mistakes from a bizarre and deadly playbook. They never acknowledge their mistakes, hence they never learn.

But we learn.

Note the parallels with today's deadly games with protesting and obtaining court restraining orders against the President's reasonable and safe border and immigration policy.

The President is simply acting to protect Americans and to prevent a 9-11 type of horror from happening again.

1 posted on 01/29/2017 7:15:11 AM PST by Hostage
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Imagine my disgust when I learned a few weeks ago that this Gorelick mutant had been retained by Jared Kushner (yes, that's Donald Trump's son-in-law) to advise him on dealing with potential conflicts of interest in his role as a "senior advisor" in the Trump administration.
2 posted on 01/29/2017 7:55:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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What is even more hideous and disgusting to know of in the aftermath of so many thousands of lives murdered in 9/11, is that Gorelick went on to be paid $26 million from Fannie Mae. Maybe she really earned it or maybe she was just well-connected to the insiders club.

Many are a little on edge to hear that the President’s son-in-law Jared Kushner has hired Gorelick to be his ‘ethics advisor’.

Perhaps the story on Gorelick was wrong the first time? If Jared Kushner who the President respects is being advised by Gorelick, maybe there are other views on Gorelick that have been missing? However, there are many many reports from all quarters, many that are quite reputable, that are warning Jared Kushner about Gorelick.

Gorelick is a lawyer and sometimes lawyers tie themselves in knots over legal theory mixed with exalted views of their own roles. Maybe Gorelick is knowledgeable about ethics. Maybe Gorelick has a professional charm that is highly appealing in person when discussing legal matters.

Lawyers and judges admire the brilliance of a legal jurist even if they flub up in political settings. Is Gorelick a brilliant legal jurist? The resume would appear to indicate yes.

I am testing how I might defend Gorelick but the context of 9/11 and the parallels with the moment of now make it a fool’s errand to defend Gorelick and by ‘Gorelick’ I mean all the types of democrats and establishment Ivy Leaguers like Gorelick.

It’s really not about Gorelick so much as it’s about Schumer, and Donnelly and all these people that play Russian Roulette with American lives.

Lawyers screw up sometimes. High profile lawyers with Ivy League degrees also screw up and when they do it can be catastrophic. I applaud Gorelick for being an Ivy Leaguer and making it through Harvard Law. But sometimes laurels of adulation fall down to blind the bearer. A high profile resume does not prevent the person on the resume from massively screwing up and worse, creating a deadly risk for innocent lives. I certainly hope Mr. Kushner adopts the viewpoints of Donald Jr. and Eric Trump. I am sure he has. My research on the Trump family is that no infighting is allowed and that mutual respect is a must. And if Ivanka Trump is happy being the wife of Jared Kushner, then we can be assured Jared is on our side. But still, questions linger about Gorelick. We need to know about the person of Gorelick and how she reflects back on her apparent misdeeds leading up to 9/11. We need that info.

Perhaps the context of Gorelick’s role in 9-11 needs closer examination? Maybe her actions in erecting the ‘information firewall’ were blown out of proportion (again foolishly wondering how to defend).

Whatever the case may be, the present business of protesting and trying to obstruct the President’s border and immigration policy can have DEADLY CONSEQUENCES. It is far too risky for democrats to be playing such deadly games with people’s lives.

Let’s put it in historical context. If President GW Bush had signed border and immigration executive orders pertinent to his first week in office similar to President Trump’s, it’s safe to say 9/11 would never have happened.

Remember the almost 3,000 Americans that were murdered on September 11, 2001 and in that context ask if President Trump is doing the right thing in issuing his Executive Order on borders and immigration.

President Trump wants to unite the country but some democrats are asking to be spanked. Perhaps ignoring the Brooklyn judge is the best course after all. I have doubts either way.


3 posted on 01/29/2017 7:58:47 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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And .. those two hijackers were in San Diego. Had been in the community for quite some time, and were taking flying lessons here.

It’s 2.5 miles from where I live.

But, as a result of that, it helped to remove most of large group of people who had taken over a couple of shopping centers, to the point that most people would not shop there anymore (me included). Now, the shopping centers have been revitalized .. and I can go there without worry.


4 posted on 01/29/2017 8:01:34 AM PST by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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From my own professional experience, I know that a critical skill is sensing “what isn’t there” — whether details that would have prevented structural failure, designs that would have anticipated adaptation and averted disasters, or contract clauses that would have derailed wrangling, lawsuits, and losses. Foresight is a major element of prudence. Gorelick, who presents as a rational, intelligent woman in public, seems to have a major deficiency in the foresight department, and she is far from alone.

Your post brought to mind the unexplored connections between Gorelick and Obama’s SCOTUS nominee Merrick Garland, who served as a deputy to Jamie Gorelick at DoJ, with a major role in terrorism prosecutions, including the Oklahoma City bombing case. Wikipedia and other sources describe Gorelick as Garland’s “mentor”. It seems hard to imagine that Gorelick would not have run the “wall of separation” concept past her mentee and main terrorism prosecutor before launching it. We might have dodged a bullet on SCOTUS, but I remain curious about Garland’s role in Gorelick’s disastrous policy, and his evaluation of it BEFORE 9-11 and since. Did he know of it before she issued her directive? Did he recognize the fatal flaw and try to have her reconsider? Does he even criticize it in retrospect? I guess if we don’t see his role it wasn’t there.

If anyone knows of sources that point to answers, I would appreciate guidance.


5 posted on 01/29/2017 8:51:04 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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