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Windows 10 networking bug derails Microsoft's own IPv6 rollout (at Redmond HQ)
The Register ^ | Jan 19.2017 | Kieren McCarthy

Posted on 01/19/2017 9:06:21 PM PST by dayglored

No pressure, peeps: Techies are awaiting a fix from their Redmond coworkers

A bug in Windows 10 is undermining Microsoft's efforts to roll out an IPv6-only network at its Seattle headquarters.

According to Redmond's principal network engineer Marcus Keane, the software giant is struggling to move over to the decade-old networking technology due to a DHCPv6 bug in Windows 10, which made it "impossible" to expand its planned corporate network. "We have reported it to the product group, and they are duly working on a fix," he revealed today.

The horrible irony of Microsoft waiting on its own team to fix a networking bug aside, the post goes some way to highlighting why it is that IPv6 is still not widely available: because it's a mess.

First up, the existing routers at its Redmond offices didn't support RDNSS. Microsoft was using DHCPv6 to provide IPv6 addresses on its network, but Android doesn't support that.

"As we needed to support Android devices on our guest network, and Android doesn’t support DHCPv6, not having this feature was a problem," said Keane.

So the company went to the router manufacturer and asked them to add RDNSS, which Android can use. In the meantime, they shifted to a different set of routers for the IPv6-only network and used a VPN to connect to the larger network – something that Keane notes "isn't ideal."

Then they hit another Microsoft software problem: network authentication. Employees use the company's own Azure Active Directory cloud-based ID system to log in, but the dynamic system they use to achieve this is – you've guessed it – not supported over IPv6.

Again, Microsoft has gone directly to the vendor to include dynamic ACL-based authorization in its system. "We expect to complete testing of both the wireless controller code and the router code supporting RDNSS in the next month or so, meaning we should be able to roll out IPv6-only to the guest network in our Redmond campus in the next six months," Keane writes.

And once that happens, Keane predicts the real fun will begin: testing whether people's applications will work over IPv6. In the meantime, they're sticking with dual-stack.

You do have to wonder – if even Microsoft can't get IPv6-only working, what chance is there for any other company to? Can someone remind us again why the Internet Engineering Task Force decided not to make this next-gen networking protocol backward-compatible?

[...more at the article link...]


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: ipv6; microsoft; windows10; windowspinglist
Oops.

IPv4, with NAT technology, solved the problem of "not enough IP addresses" because not all devices have to have unique public IPs. The push for IPv6 -- at this point in time -- appears to me to be that somebody WANTS every IoT device to have a unique public IP because they want to be able to talk to it directly, to PUSH things to it whether it wants them or not.

My refrigerator? My coffee maker? My pacemaker implant? I DON'T THINK SO.

I'm very happy behind my NAT, thank you.

YMMV.

1 posted on 01/19/2017 9:06:21 PM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ...
Windows 10 IPv6 lacks that certain... je ne sais quoi ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 01/19/2017 9:07:23 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I have been running a dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 stack on my home network. I run IPv4 for the windows machines and IPv6 for my Linux Mint boxes. I have been set up this way for over two years now.

I constantly have problems with the windows machines. I hardly ever have a problem with the Linux boxes.


3 posted on 01/19/2017 9:22:52 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
IPv6 is to me like Brussels sprouts. I know they're there. I don't need them, I don't like them, they smell funny and taste worse.

Some people really like them. Fine, they can have mine.

IPv4 works fine on my local network, and behind a NAT I don't care.

If my survivors put an IPv6 enabled IoT device on my tombstone, that's their business.

4 posted on 01/19/2017 9:32:35 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

From what I’ve heard, Windows 10 is spyware.


5 posted on 01/19/2017 9:47:23 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

> From what I’ve heard, Windows 10 is spyware.

It’s not all spyware, and the part that is intrusive can be controlled to a large degree. But the default settings are pretty egregious, IMO.


6 posted on 01/19/2017 10:01:28 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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Microsoft was using DHCPv6 to provide IPv6 addresses on its network, but Android doesn't support that.

I have an Android phone.

On T-Mobile's network, it has an IPv6 address (and a high transfer rate). On my Verizon FiOS LAN, it has an IPv4 address (and a high transfer rate).

Other than battery drain (high on WiFi, low on LTE), I can't tell the difference. ...

Sound like Microsquish needs to get its act together.

7 posted on 01/20/2017 2:34:37 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: dayglored

Microsoft needs to eat it’s own sludge.


8 posted on 01/20/2017 5:06:41 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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