Posted on 01/04/2017 10:40:28 AM PST by blam
The author of this good article, Jo Marchant did a very good job writing this article.
Now, at the end of the article she was unable to keep her political views and liberal opinion to herself. Below is the entry that offended me:
" The revelation is compelling for anyone with an interest in how great civilizations are bornand what makes them great. And with rising nationalism and xenophobia in parts of Europe and the United States, Davis and others suggest that the grave contains a more urgent lesson. Greek culture, Davis says, is not something that has been genetically transmitted from generation to generation since the dawn of time. From the very earliest moments of Western civilization, he says, Mycenaeans were capable of embracing many different traditions.
I think we should all care about that, says Shelmerdine. It resonates today, when you have factions that want to throw everybody out [of their countries]. I dont think the Mycenaeans would have gotten anywhere if they hadnt been able to reach beyond their shores.
To me, this is in reference to Trump's stated policy of enforcing the law against illegal immigrants and sending them back home.
I'm seeing these sorts of things in many articles these days with most making reference to Man-Made Global Warming.
I am not going to pay so that liberal writers can use these articles to spread their liberalism. Also, I'm guessing that the archaeologist involved were allowed to 'proof' the article and apparently agreed.So.....
I'm cancelling my subscription and a gift subscription that I give my son.
Make a stand somewhere!
(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...
I stopped my NG some years back for an attack they did on George Bush about Global Warming.
Don’t miss the Dr. Judith Curry thread from today re: Global Warming. We need to get her into a science policy post in the Trump Administration.
CRAZINESS in climate field leads dissenter Dr. Judith Curry (GA Tech) to resign
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3510595/posts
That's what happening to so many scientific articles I read lately. Even the non-believers do it now or they don't get grants, I'm told.
My dads mother, Mrs Smith, had mtDNA haplogroup U5a, same as Cheddar Man.
Fortunately for me, dirt bike magazines and gun magazines are still on target.
"Im cashing out with 186 published journal articles and two books. The superficial reason is that I want to do other things, and no longer need my university salary. This opens up an opportunity for Georgia Tech to make a new hire (see advert).
"The deeper reasons have to do with my growing disenchantment with universities, the academic field of climate science and scientists. A deciding factor was that I no longer know what to say to students and postdocs regarding how to navigate the CRAZINESS in the field of climate science. Research and other professional activities are professionally rewarded only if they are channeled in certain directions approved by a politicized academic establishment funding, ease of getting your papers published, getting hired in prestigious positions, appointments to prestigious committees and boards, professional recognition, etc."
How will this mess be corrected?
I have a friend who is a professor at USA and he tells me that his university required grading software will not allow him to give a failing grade. When he confronted his superiors, he was told to 'work with the student.'
>> My dads mother, Mrs Smith, had mtDNA haplogroup U5a, same as Cheddar Man. <<
And your father had the same haplogroup.
(You always get it from your mother.)
Sure, we don't need little political messages in articles on archaeology or movies that distort history.
There's been a long tradition of drawing a radical contrast between the Greeks and Asia or Africa -- "the West versus the rest."
There's something in that, but it can be taken too far.
The trend in academia recently has been to study the similarities between the ancient Greeks and the Asian and North African societies of their day.
That can also be taken too far, but it was inevitable that scholars would go down that path after decades of taking the other.
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What are the odds, though, that two scholars would spontaneously choose to hang a modern-day political message on their speculations? It's possible, of course, but maybe the author of the article was trawling for an anti-Trump (or anti-Brexit) message, setting her subjects up to give her the responses she wanted.
And didn’t the Greeks have (gasp) slaves?
Many, many years ago I “trashed” national geographic when it became political and had nothing to do with actual geographical discoveries. Over the years I watched all “so-called” scientific journals and articles turn to absolute Political Correctness and the presentation of factual scientific and geographic articles became total political support for the environmentalists and liberal world of ignorant politically programmed robots.
The word “science” is now synonymous with propaganda.
Well....yes. He had the same mtDNA as his mother but it stopped with him. He passed his R1b yDNA on to me. The U5a mtDNA of my grandmother is only passed down by the females.
I never knew Mrs Smith. I got her DNA from her daughters daughter, my cousin, long after her death.
My mother had a fairly rare DNA, haplogroup 'V', as do myself and 52% of the Skoat Sami people.
You understand.
I think, partly, they were parading their 'bonifides' to their colleagues.
(See, we got our jabs in at Trump)
#25 Just wait till you get the tranny bathing suit issue...
I received a free copy of “The Family Handyman” magazine. It shows how to build projects and fix things. I do hope they stick to that.
Bryan Sykes tested 20 people in Cheddar Gorge and got two exact matches with Cheddar Man and one with a single mutation difference. Since the two exact matches were children they focused on the near-match, the teacher Adrian Targett.
Manco says that a modern-day Briton with U5 mtDNA could have a Saxon or Viking or Norman matrilineal ancestor. "Indeed it seems likely that most U5 in Britain today descends from Copper Age arrivals at the earliest."
(The Copper Age is the period just before the Bronze Age--much later than Cheddar Man who lived about 7000 B.C.)
Posted in 1997:
Descendant Of Stone Age Skeleton Found (Cheddar Man - 9,000 Years Old)
Both are really old haplogroups.
She has a chart showing the earliest confirmed datable example of each mtDNA group in Europe--for V it is from 5640-5560 B.C., found at Alsonyek-Bataszek, Hungary.
She cites an article by Szecsenyi-Nagy, A., et al., "Tracing the genetic origin of Europe's first farmers reveals insights into their social organization," Proceedings of the Royal Society B, 282 (1805) 20150339.
>> My mother had a fairly rare DNA, haplogroup ‘V’, as do myself and 52% of the Skoat Sami people <<
Interesting! My mother carried the U5b haplogroup, also from the Saami, and most of our close matches are in Finland.
On the other hand, we have no proof of how that line got to the USA. In fact, we’ve found absolutely no history of Finnish or Scandinavian heritage in the written record or oral legends about the line. Maybe we trace back to the Swedish Colony of Delaware. But that’s just a theory without evidence.
I have no idea either. I have 'V' and U5a on different sides of my family. Both are from SE Alabama farming families.
There are some interesting/inputs ideas on this thread:
Before The Fall Of The Reindeer People
The last post on that thread is by FReeper Viiksitimali , a Sami.
Someone said that some Sami landed in the New World as slaves to work in the timber industry.
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